I just hope TS can sort it. We went through similar as Hull Sharks (for a much shorter period), so I know how it hurts. Get behind TS in anything he has to do. Good luck.

We'll swap you Tim Smith and Cameron Phelps for him?

I do not understand how he has turned out this bad over here.

Afterall, class is permanent.

The relationship between players & fans is at all time low in my opinion. The majority of them, they just don't mean anything to me right now. I used to kinda look upto them, even as an adult that's mildly ridiculous I know, but there was something about them, sure I know that in the modern era of footballers, that these guys are just average joes in comparison, but to me they weren't, these were the people that played for my team, ran out to represent the club that means so much to you like, they'd let you down sometimes, make you happy at others, make you nervous, make you shout, whatever. But when all said and done you'd make your hands raw clapping them to the hilt, and you felt that when they clapped back, however half hearted, they loved you too.

Somewhere, down the line, this has gone, and the present lot look & act like it's a chore to even bother playing for their wages. I know we poke fun on here at times, but folk like Monaghan & Gleeson have looked pretty miserable during their whole tenure. Somewhere down the line, the buzz of playing for Warrington, and what it means to the people of Warrington has been lost in translation.

I know what you mean Morley needed to even shout and wave the other players over to come and clap after the Leeds game. In the past coming over to the fans was the first thing done.

And yes at whatever age a fan is these players should feel like heroes to them, at the moment you wouldn't give them a 2nd look if you saw them on the street.

i wonder why the players don't like the fans...one look on this forum would be pretty damaging to that relationship!

i wonder why the fans don't like the players...one look on the pitch would be pretty damaging to that relationship!

a viscious circle/chicken and egg scenario

I am delighted that a player finally gesticulated to our "supporters" after being subjected to abuse.

So please get off your high horses about him showing the finger. The behaviour of a fair number of individuals on this forum and at the ground is far worse than Matt Kings actions.

I wish that a couple of seasons ago Mike Wainwright had given the fans the old two fingered salute after the constant criticism he took or Jon Clarke had after the abuse directed his way.

How supporters expect players to perform to the best of their ability whilst being subjected to the barrage of criticism they constantly receive from Warrington fans is beyond me.
So lets continue in this vein shall we ... lets boo King onto the pitch next week because thats sure to make him perform better. Lets abuse Monaghan during the game because its really going to improve his performance isnt it.

And lets all boo the team if they concede the first try of the match next week as seems to now be the norm.

So, fair play to you Ma tt King - I'd love to stick 2 fingers up to a number of Warrington fans as well.

He shouldn't have done it, in my old job I use to get abuse everyday face to face but I didn't rise up to it and if I did I would have been sacked. King has just made the situation a lot worse.

Does he offload....he never offloads
Does he score trys...nooo he never scores trys
does he tackle.....he never tackles
he does nothing, Matt King does nothing.

Totally agree - and I WAS there.

I took his action to be aimed at the one or two individuals who were calling him. Unfortunately it'll be blown up that he's 'against' ALL the fans which I don't believe to be the case for one minute.
He was stupid to respond.

King reacted to

"King do us a favour, Get banned, it's the only way you won't be picked"

Well in Kingy. A world class player, ruined by this joke of a club. About time someone gave something back to some of the houses that support Wire.

After the football result yesterday, no one in the pub I was in were really bothered about this score. Goes to show a lot of people are losing the passion they once had for Warrington RLFC, myself included.

Would you apportion any blame at all to Matt King or is it all the clubs/supporters fault he's been crap for 18 months?

If it is the supporter's fault then can I personally apologise to Matt King for my part in the fact that he has played well in about 2 games out of 30 odd.