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| Tony Smith....... just a matter of time.
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| Quote: Paul2812 "Tony Smith....... just a matter of time.'"
Sooner than later me thinks
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| Will the clever fans who wanted Cullen out please stand on the bridge at Bridge foot and jump in.
Please also take with you Bridge, Monaghan and king. Oh and lets not forget Doug Hoyle.
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| Quote: Rob Wire "If we can`t get Latchford Wolvesfan and Padgate wire then it would be Craig Bellamy for me, money talks so lets make him an offer he can`t refuse.'"
Maybe he has refused one?
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| what about graham murray or mathew elliot they've both done the
job over here and know what's required
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| Quote: wolveseatpies "what about graham murray or mathew elliot they've both done the
job over here and know what's required'"
Elliot! No thanks.
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| give lowes a chance. How about that only 2 games gone.
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| Quote: Latchford Wolvesfan "Why ?
He was well and truly found out in the World Cup.'"
Quality, proven club head coach, that's why.
International coach is a totally different kettle of fish sunshine
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| Quote: Birch24 "give lowes a chance. How about that only 2 games gone.'"
Funny I thought we had now lost seven on the bounce. Many of which in embarrassing fashion.
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| Whoever is linked with the club, people will find reasons to be negative.
When Leeds appointed Brian McLennan people said he was a good international coach but wouldn't be able to transfer that to the domestic game (Paul Youane remembers that one)
When Saints appointed Daniel Anderson there were people pointing to his shocking international record in charge of the Kiwis, he had finished bottom of the Tri Nations the year before when Noble's GB were far better than his Kiwi team (although McLennan managed to win the Tri Nations with them the next season). And also apparently appointing Anderson was a gamble because he falls out with people, he caused trouble at the Warriors and quit them after loads of players left the club because they didn't like him. Anderson was supposedly going to cause trouble at Saints and it would all end in tears....but a Super League title, three Challenge Cups and a WCC wasn't a bad record for three and a half seasons work.
At the end of the day there is an element of the unknown in any coaching appointment, it is always going to be a calculated gamble. But Hanley, Smith, Folkes, and so on are far less a gamble than appointing Lowes, who had no experience other than being an assistant in a Salford team which got relegated, and Cullen's Warrington.
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| it doesnt matter who is in charge itwill still be the same e players on the pitch a manager doesnt make you knock on or give pens away only players can change that
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| Quote: sally cinnamon "Whoever is linked with the club, people will find reasons to be negative.
When Leeds appointed Brian McLennan people said he was a good international coach but wouldn't be able to transfer that to the domestic game (Paul Youane remembers that one)
When Saints appointed Daniel Anderson there were people pointing to his shocking international record in charge of the Kiwis, he had finished bottom of the Tri Nations the year before when Noble's GB were far better than his Kiwi team (although McLennan managed to win the Tri Nations with them the next season). And also apparently appointing Anderson was a gamble because he falls out with people, he caused trouble at the Warriors and quit them after loads of players left the club because they didn't like him. Anderson was supposedly going to cause trouble at Saints and it would all end in tears....but a Super League title, three Challenge Cups and a WCC wasn't a bad record for three and a half seasons work.
At the end of the day there is an element of the unknown in any coaching appointment, it is always going to be a calculated gamble. But Hanley, Smith, Folkes, and so on are far less a gamble than appointing Lowes, who had no experience other than being an assistant in a Salford team which got relegated, and Cullen's Warrington.'" Spot on. It is a gamble, and a new coach isn't a guarantee of success.
This is one of the reasons I think it is really difficult to rate how good coaches are. Sometimes, with a class coach, things just all fit into place, and everything works for them. They then move to a new club, and things just don't work.
I would be looking for a coach who has won things, but who has also been to more than one club and had success at the top level.
How many coaches fit into that mould though?
I would be happy with any of the ones that you named above, at least they have won something.
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| Quote: mark_m "Funny I thought we had now lost seven on the bounce. Many of which in embarrassing fashion.'"
And we did many times with Cullen and he got 5 years, people seem very quick to shoot down the inexperienced coach instead of putting blame on the players.
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| Quote: Latchford Wolvesfan "And we did many times with Cullen and he got 5 years, people seem very quick to shoot down the inexperienced coach instead of putting blame on the players.'" Just looked at the last few years results, and the biggest losing streak I saw with Cullen in charge (excluding Challenge Cup as the stats are not included) is 4 games.
There were some embarassing defeats under him, but the last 7 games or so have been as bad as anything I have seen for years and years, with no glimmer of hope.
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| Quote: Dave T "Just looked at the last few years results, and the biggest losing streak I saw with Cullen in charge (excluding Challenge Cup as the stats are not included) is 4 games.
There were some embarassing defeats under him, but the last 7 games or so have been as bad as anything I have seen for years and years, with no glimmer of hope.'"
Just think some of the Lowes bashing is a little harsh.
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