I think you'll find that both happened.



I will have you a bet of 10 english pounds that sometime this season we score 40+ points against somebody.

I think SaintsFan is on the button. Saints got a roll on and we aided them with turning over the ball far too cheaply.

It's easy to disregard Saints' ability at utilising momentum and say we didn't look fit, they are masters of getting upfield from the play the ball. I would love to see the amount of tackes and completion rate. /the gane is about momentum, Saints got a

I would go as far to say we lost the game in the first half, with the amount of posession and position we had we should have gone in further ahead than we did. A couple of areas we do seem to repeating errors is concentration from restarts and unforced errors.

All-in-all I am quite confused, we looked composed in defence in the first half, yet completely the opposite in the second half.

Never simple following Warrington.

Our goal line defence in the first half also looked a little worrysome but we were in those instances aided by some uncharacteristically poor handling from saints, saints blew at least 3 (if not more) clear cut scoring chances that they ordinarily would not have done in that first half.

Warrington will not have a successful season (and by successful I am aiming low by meaning a challenge cup semi final and/or at least two wins in the playoffs) unless they can learn to defend close to their own try line.

I'll bet him one million pounds!

It was all about mistakes at crucial times; some by our players, one by the referee.

When things started to go wrong, I thought the mental belief started to drain, possibly linked to the fatigue that crept in due to the fact we had little possession from about 60 minutes onwards.

..and it was long way from being a pathetic effort. There is a lot Warrington can take out of this game.

1st half yes, 2nd half i stand by my view that the effort was pathetic.

Think I was watching a different game than man of the posters on here. I am with Geordie (different thread) there are many of positives to be taken from last night.
"Lack of effort" eh? There was plenty of effort, many things to be improved upon but we will win many more this season than we loose. I am usually mortified when we loose a derby, and yes I am frustrated but also I am encouraged, our pack was awsome before it tired. Get a grip.

Funnily enough I seem to recall them going 14-0 up in the second half.

There was no lack of effort on show. I think composure, fatigue and decision making was more of a problem. And the little fact that Skintellins started to put their own play in order.

but thats the problem. Its a recurring theme and not one that should happen when you have forced a side into defending way more than you have been doing.

exactly...it should have been saints tiring after all the defending they did...but they just got stronger and stronger....like muhammed ali they just took everything we could throw at them and then just put us on our ar$e

I think we threw all we had too soon given the pressure to break the voodoo rather than biding time like Saints do so well.