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The NHS does try and do a lot of campaigning on prevention and healthy lifestyles and doctors lobby government for increased regulations/taxes on things like sugar, saturated fats, tobacco, alcohol.

However they come up against powerful lobby interests and media commentators who describe this as "the nanny state". Often the same type of voices who like to slag off the NHS all the time. One of the ironies which they haven't understood, in their simultaneous campaigns against the nanny state and NHS and 'red tape', is that insurance companies want deregulation of data privacy rules so they can use 'big data' to learn more about peoples lifestyles.

If they get their way on this and on private insurance replacing the NHS, then they may end up in the dystopian nightmare where every transaction they make is being monitored with an eye to setting their health premiums. Then the 25 year old teetotal vegan millennial with subscriptions to yoga classes and fitness clubs pays a lot less than the 50 year old who is a bit overweight and enjoys beer, a full English breakfast and the occasional fag. Probably not the world they were hoping for.

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Quote: sally cinnamon ". Then the 25 year old teetotal vegan millennial with subscriptions to yoga classes and fitness clubs pays a lot less than the 50 year old who is a bit overweight and enjoys beer, a full English breakfast and the occasional fag. Probably not the world they were hoping for.'"


Sounds perfectly fair to me. By all means, enjoy your unhealthy lifestyle, just don't expect others to fund your self abuse.

We currently have a system that rewards neglect, with a free route out of it. .. that can't be right?

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Quote: Dita's Slot Meter "Sounds perfectly fair to me. By all means, enjoy your unhealthy lifestyle, just don't expect others to fund your self abuse.

We currently have a system that rewards neglect, with a free route out of it. .. that can't be right?'"

Couldn't agree more.but to throw another angle on it aren't we all guilty of this in some sort of way...I.e going for a few beers on a Friday having a chippy tea some smoke..when on holiday drink and eat more Christmas we do eat and drink more...not meaning to pick an argument but aren't we all guilty of this...

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This is getting a bit serious but we do seem to live in an 'entitlement' and 'not my fault' society. The counter balance is some people genuine need help.

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I see today Premier League footballers have come together to make a charitable donation to the NHS. Wonderful gesture.

However the NHS is not a charity and should not have to be funded by charitable donations in the midst of a crisis. A sickening indictment of 10 years of Tory rule.

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Indeed if only Corbyn and Abbott had been at the helm

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Quote: Uncle Rico "Indeed if only Corbyn and Abbott had been at the helm'"
They couldn’t have done any worse than Johnson and his pals have during this pandemic.

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This dispute / discussion take me back to my schooldays when the headmaster would drop into the class and gave his words of wisdom regarding healthy living ..he was whip thin, didn't drink or smoke and advised us to leave the dining table still feeling a little hungry....He retired at 65 and his funeral was just a few weeks later.

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Quote: Uncle Rico "Indeed if only Corbyn and Abbott had been at the helm'"


When it comes to the question of who would you trust with your life, Jeremy Corbyn, Diane abbot, or Boris Johnson?

You might want to take some advice from Boris Johnson’s dumped partners and abandoned children icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: sir adrian morley "Couldn't agree more.but to throw another angle on it aren't we all guilty of this in some sort of way...I.e going for a few beers on a Friday having a chippy tea some smoke..when on holiday drink and eat more Christmas we do eat and drink more...not meaning to pick an argument but aren't we all guilty of this...'"


No argument with this. However, there is a vast difference between this situation and one where some lard turns up at the GP's, with a BMI in the 30's, his blood pressure through the roof and not being able to walk 100 metres without gasping for breath.

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Quote: Superblue "When it comes to the question of who would you trust with your life, Jeremy Corbyn, Diane abbot, or Boris Johnson?

You might want to take some advice from Boris Johnson’s dumped partners and abandoned children
Wasn`t Diane Abbot abandoned by a former lover:- the totally unelectable Corbyn?

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Quote: Dita's Slot Meter "No argument with this. However, there is a vast difference between this situation and one where some lard turns up at the GP's, with a BMI in the 30's, his blood pressure through the roof and not being able to walk 100 metres without gasping for breath.'"

Dont forget there is also a social inequality aspect to this. Poor education, poor parental guidance, limited life chances are all factors. Cheap processed food also needs to be thrown into the mix.

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Quote: Boss Hog "Wasn`t Diane Abbot abandoned by a former lover


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