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Really rate Toby King, I can't understand the criticism he sometimes gets. Gutted about the result but that's finally given me some optimism for this season.

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Warrington were immense considering the circumstances and a better side than the best Wigan side in recent years.
Why do refs put up with Wigan ing about in the tackle?

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Quote: just_browny "Wigan didn't actually score a single point when we were down to 12.

Very impressed with Ashton. Clearly he will make mistakes as well as do good things, I just hope the boo boys give him time. The other new signing, Gelling, took a while to get into the game and I hope to see more.

I thought King was terrific (another who gets slated but makes a massive impact in defence) and the commitment across the field was great. I really hope Widdop can sharpen up our lateral play because that still looks clunky.

Hill had to go. I love the guy but he looked leaden-footed for both of their tries. Not sure if he is more interested in bathrooms now but, if so, we need to start thinking about the future.'"


Did you have 11 when Marshall scored?

Thought you were the better side and Hill has cost you the game.

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Thought King was MOM tonight even over French.

His overall contribution was far in excess of any other player, both in attack and defence. Hope he continues like that every week. Best game in a Wire shirt by far.

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Quote: CW8 "Really rate Toby King, I can't understand the criticism he sometimes gets. Gutted about the result but that's finally given me some optimism for this season.'"


Because other than his defence he is a wholly ineffective attacking centre. Well other than catching a high ball. He has no pace, he has no step, he has no ability to put his winger away. Every opposition fan says the same about King... They're glad he's playing. Defence is not what I look for in a centre. The fact he's considered MOM absolutely encapsulates where we are as a club.

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A critical view of us tonight....we still don't know what to do when we get close to the opposition's line (maybe Widdop will sort us out there) and we need to learn to kick along the ground as well as in the air.

Ashton - looked good, fast, will score plenty just needs to sort his positioning
Charnley - needs to stop trapping players in when they tackle him, refs all it every time
Gelling - wasn't too impressed when we signed him but reckon he will go well for us
King - fantastic defensive stint, just practice that killer pass
Lineham -a better winger than Charnley in my opinion
Austin - looked good in parts but needs to vary his kicking game
Ratchford - a potent attacking threat with a surprising turn of speed
Hill - Ref had no choice really. Can't see him doing big minutes this season (Bring on Mr Latu)
Clark D - looked good and will always be a threat
Cooper - Mr Consistency for me, as long as Price rotates him properly
BMM - what a try! Anyone who can do that to Burgess is ok by me
Currie - Hurts to say it but I think we've seen his best days at the Wire
Clark J - played a belter, if he keeps this up I can see why Bunnies fans loved him
Philbin - quality player, always gives of his best
Akuola - short stints again, ran hard
Burrell - looks promising, think he will take Currie's starting place as season goes on
Walker - always looks a handful, happy for him to spell DC to keep it interesting

A special mention goes to the ref for a truly awful performance......charge down?? Sheesh

Before anyone rips in to what I've said here, this is my critical opinion of what I saw tonight. If we keep 13 on the field and play like that with the offloads and the running and general enthusiasm and fitness, it'll be a much more entertaining season than last year for sure. I'm going to really enjoy watching Ashton tear opposition defences a new one!

Now the Wire!

PS - Pies looked pants, O'Loughlin seems a liability

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Quote: easyWire "Thought King was MOM tonight even over French.

His overall contribution was far in excess of any other player, both in attack and defence. Hope he continues like that every week. Best game in a Wire shirt by far.'"

He made 2 outstanding defensive reads in the second half. But that isn't any reason to say someone is MOM! His attacking ability is non existent. Although having Currie playing down that side isn't helping.

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Quote: Mr Snoodle "A critical view of us tonight....we still don't know what to do when we get close to the opposition's line (maybe Widdop will sort us out there) and we need to learn to kick along the ground as well as in the air.

Ashton - looked good, fast, will score plenty just needs to sort his positioning
Charnley - needs to stop trapping players in when they tackle him, refs all it every time
Gelling - wasn't too impressed when we signed him but reckon he will go well for us
King - fantastic defensive stint, just practice that killer pass
Lineham -a better winger than Charnley in my opinion
Austin - looked good in parts but needs to vary his kicking game
Ratchford - a potent attacking threat with a surprising turn of speed
Hill - Ref had no choice really. Can't see him doing big minutes this season (Bring on Mr Latu)
Clark D - looked good and will always be a threat
Cooper - Mr Consistency for me, as long as Price rotates him properly
BMM - what a try! Anyone who can do that to Burgess is ok by me
Currie - Hurts to say it but I think we've seen his best days at the Wire
Clark J - played a belter, if he keeps this up I can see why Bunnies fans loved him
Philbin - quality player, always gives of his best
Akuola - short stints again, ran hard
Burrell - looks promising, think he will take Currie's starting place as season goes on
Walker - always looks a handful, happy for him to spell DC to keep it interesting

A special mention goes to the ref for a truly awful performance......charge down?? Sheesh

Before anyone rips in to what I've said here, this is my critical opinion of what I saw tonight. If we keep 13 on the field and play like that with the offloads and the running and general enthusiasm and fitness, it'll be a much more entertaining season than last year for sure. I'm going to really enjoy watching Ashton tear opposition defences a new one!

Now the Wire!

PS - Pies looked pants, O'Loughlin seems a liability'"


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Widnes fan here. Thought you played well. Going down to 12 men always helps a team get up for a game. He really doesn’t impress me anymore. Lazy defending for French to go through and had to see red.

Kendall had a stinker. That knock on Wigan did near the posts was embarrassing, then they get a penalty for a ball strip. Austin looks lively but got himself too involved with needless niggly .
Pleased to see D Walker go well for you. Ashton looks quality and his pace may become indefensible once you click.
Currie - sad for the lad but seems a different player
T King was your best player imo.

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Im not sure you can put too much down to the 12 men argument. Many a time 12 men come out on top including us at your place a few years ago when we didn’t have a prayer with 13! However to me you look a better side than Wigan in spite of the result and if I was you I’d be encouraged! Where did Jason Clark find his improvement? MOM for me. The ref did you no favours and although I agree with the sending off I think it was unfortunate. Widdop could be the X factor you’re missing in attack! Ratchford ain’t a half back and King is the worst offensive centre in the league! Ashton looks a mega signing and I’d love to see him get an extended run at FB and Ratchford replacing King in the centre. I think you’ll lose again next week but having seen that tonight I think you’ll be well in the mix this year!

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Yeah this whole King was Man of the match and our best player.........i guess i watched a different game, bizzarre comments.
Great game for our opening game and very proud of all of them, there was no shame in that loss at all.
Completely agree with Mr.Snoodle especially that Lineham is a better winger than Charnley, if he cuts out his weird brain farts he has he's much better than Charnley. Be interesting to see what Leilani Latu can bring to our go forward and add Widdop in and injury free it's exciting times. Finally got to see what all the fuss the Souths fans have been ranting about for Jason Clark is, he was brilliant, Solid go forward and defensively awesome icon_smile.gif

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Quote: Egg Chasing "Did you have 11 when Marshall scored?

Thought you were the better side and Hill has cost you the game.'"

No. Wigan were pointless while Wire were at 11 men.

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I still think we dropped a bollox loaning Livett to KR...we should have kept him and allowed Currie to go instead.

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Quote: Egg Chasing "Did you have 11 when Marshall scored?'"


Yes Warrington lost Cooper to the sin bin at 63 minute mark and Marshall scored less than 2 mins later.

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Quote: rubber duckie "No. Wigan were pointless while Wire were at 11 men.'"

Wrong,............AGAIN!! icon_rolleyes.gif

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