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| Quote: jdrocket "I think you have answered the why (Although, the beard is pretty impressive too)
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I'm, actually, a bit of a fan of pre-A Trick of The Tail Genesis (or I prefer those albums). In fact, I was listening to 'Selling England by the Pound' on my way to uni this afternoon.
I am very aware of the fact you haven't mentioned Gabriel.'"
Loved all pre ''And Then There Were Three'' stuff.
Seen them 3 times and one of their tribute bands
For me Chester Thompson is / was one of the best drummers (was the drummer on many of the Genesis tours). Brilliant when he and Collins both played drums together on Dance on a Volcano.
Ginger Baker (Baker Gurvitz Army, Cream) was also awesome.
Jon Farriss - INXS
Rick Allen - Def Leppard
Nick Mason / Keith Moon etc etc
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51898_1347989911.png "Come, follow me, and I will show you how to fish for people!" Matthew 4:19
Things I learned on 11/08/12
Gareth Hock can't pass
Gareth Hock can't run
Gareth Hock can't fight
[url=http://www.dailystar.co.uk/rugby/view/256856/Gareth-Hock-relives-drugs-ban-hell/:22njixh9]I'm assured he can snort a line of coke the size of a Mecca dauber though.[/url:22njixh9]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_51898.png |
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| Quote: manco "google "best rock drummers"
and very few of the lists have peart any lower than 3rd!'"
I don't deny he's a good drummer. The whole flipping band is special (not really to my taste). However, Palmer, Powell, Ginger, Bonham, maybe Ringo, and a few others would probably be that high in a lot of other lists.
Personally, which as I said originally is what this basically comes down to (due to style and preference), I don't agree Peart is the best. AS I said, Rush isn't my favourite band.
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51898_1347989911.png "Come, follow me, and I will show you how to fish for people!" Matthew 4:19
Things I learned on 11/08/12
Gareth Hock can't pass
Gareth Hock can't run
Gareth Hock can't fight
[url=http://www.dailystar.co.uk/rugby/view/256856/Gareth-Hock-relives-drugs-ban-hell/:22njixh9]I'm assured he can snort a line of coke the size of a Mecca dauber though.[/url:22njixh9]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_51898.png |
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| Quote: fez1 "Loved all pre ''And Then There Were Three'' stuff.
Seen them 3 times and one of their tribute bands
For me Chester Thompson is / was one of the best drummers (was the drummer on many of the Genesis tours). Brilliant when he and Collins both played drums together on Dance on a Volcano.
Ginger Baker (Baker Gurvitz Army, Cream) was also awesome.
Jon Farriss - INXS
Rick Allen - Def Leppard
Nick Mason / Keith Moon etc etc'"
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| I thought this was rock not jazz?
Anyway, Cozy Powell was bildge. Ian Paice peed all over him in Whitesnake. He just......swung.
Also Neil Peart????
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| Quote: jdrocket "I actually got 'Melt' before I got any Genesis stuff (and before scratch and car). I think I may have been a bit put off by Phil Collins' later solo stuff (or bought into the image of him being an annoying weirdo). But yeah, 8th July 2009, I got that album and listened to it religiously. Was one of those important purchases. I have listened to it more than any of the Genesis stuff and the other Gabriel albums. I have to agree with you too about it being close to perfection (or 'genius', as you say) and Bilko being the weakness. It isn't exactly unlistenable but it meanders a great deal and doesn't really fit in with the tone of the album. But the first side(on the vinyl) is just a series of great tracks, bookmarked by my favourites on the album ('Intruder' and 'Through the Wire')
What is your view on' Foxtrot'? I can see the improvement on 'Nursery Cryme' and I am personally a massive fan (Get 'em out by Friday' and 'Supper's Ready' are close to audio nirvana) but it isn't the completed article.'"
Foxtrot's a good album, after all, they were still learning their trade, but.....Supper's Ready IS THE GREATEST ROCK RECORD, EVER (in my humble opinion).
It's a great pity (for Genesis) that the punk era started. Some critics used to give them reasonable reviews, however, when punk started, the trendy music press decided to put the knife into them, because John Lydon told 'em to (incidentally, Lydon and Collins DO get on well with each other, contrary to popular belief).
Re Gabriel, jd.....So is another cracker, which is worth your attention.
Back on thread, good call for whoever brought up the name of Ginger Baker
Some of his drumming on that Cream reunion gig @ Royal Albert Hall was a joy to behold.
There was also a little known band called BBM, in which he teamed up with Jack Bruce (again) and Gary Moore. I've got a 2 minute video clip of them, and Baker doesn't miss a beat...quality.
Back on Neil Peart, this fella CAN drum. Each time Rush tour, I keep meaning to get a ticket, but never get round to it. I've not got a Rush album since around "Time Stand Still" circa mid-late 80's. Are they worth a buy?
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| Quote: jdrocket "I actually got 'Melt' before I got any Genesis stuff (and before scratch and car). I think I may have been a bit put off by Phil Collins' later solo stuff (or bought into the image of him being an annoying weirdo). But yeah, 8th July 2009, I got that album and listened to it religiously. Was one of those important purchases. I have listened to it more than any of the Genesis stuff and the other Gabriel albums. I have to agree with you too about it being close to perfection (or 'genius', as you say) and Bilko being the weakness. It isn't exactly unlistenable but it meanders a great deal and doesn't really fit in with the tone of the album. But the first side(on the vinyl) is just a series of great tracks, bookmarked by my favourites on the album ('Intruder' and 'Through the Wire')
What is your view on' Foxtrot'? I can see the improvement on 'Nursery Cryme' and I am personally a massive fan (Get 'em out by Friday' and 'Supper's Ready' are close to audio nirvana) but it isn't the completed article.'"
Foxtrot's a good album, after all, they were still learning their trade, but.....Supper's Ready IS THE GREATEST ROCK RECORD, EVER (in my humble opinion).
It's a great pity (for Genesis) that the punk era started. Some critics used to give them reasonable reviews, however, when punk started, the trendy music press decided to put the knife into them, because John Lydon told 'em to (incidentally, Lydon and Collins DO get on well with each other, contrary to popular belief).
Re Gabriel, jd.....So is another cracker, which is worth your attention.
Back on thread, good call for whoever brought up the name of Ginger Baker
Some of his drumming on that Cream reunion gig @ Royal Albert Hall was a joy to behold.
There was also a little known band called BBM, in which he teamed up with Jack Bruce (again) and Gary Moore. I've got a 2 minute video clip of them, and Baker doesn't miss a beat...quality.
Back on Neil Peart, this fella CAN drum. Each time Rush tour, I keep meaning to get a ticket, but never get round to it. I've not got a Rush album since around "Time Stand Still" circa mid-late 80's. Are they worth a buy?
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| Quote: Disgruntledgoat "I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where, uh, Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums.
Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument. In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. Take the lyrics to Land of Confusion. In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. In Too Deep is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as anything I've heard in rock.
Phil Collins' solo career seems to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying, in a narrower way. Especially songs like In the Air Tonight and Against All Odds. But I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist. This is Sussudio, a great, great song, a personal favorite.'"
WRONG it's all bland middle of the road e.
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| Phil Collins is an insufferable bellend
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| How has Mickey Dee not been mentioned yet?
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| some sh*t drummers in this thread.
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| Joey Jordison; when we saw Slipknot a few years ago my brother-in-law who has been drumming in bands for years and teaches the drums was astonished at how good he was and some of the things he is able to do.
Glad somebody has mentioned Ian Paice but strangely the name Keith Moon hasn't been brought up.
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| Quote: garyhulsefan "Have they moved to the South East corner yet?'"
I stood behind Dave Grohl at the Hull KR game. I wasn't impressed really; he didn't join in for any song and spent most of the game slagging Myler off.
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| Neil Peart - the business.
Stewart Copeland was not too shabby either. Top drummer
I also love Clem Burke from Blondie albeit there was no variety in his drumming. It was flat out every track.
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| Load of bollox argument.
Gilmour wasnt a technically great guitarist but his tone and feel made him special. Malmsteen was so fast but fecking boring to listen to.
Some drummers are technically brilliant but totally overplay.
Now Steve Gadd played for the song.
Oh, someone mention Ginger Baker before. His drumming on the live performance of Spoonful on Wheels of Fire is just an orgasm.
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| All depends what you listen to, Vinnie Paul is a decent drummer, most on here won't listen to him so don't include him.
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