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We all drank like a tramp but violence was the last thing on our minds. It's not alcohol which is the sole problem, it's (rough) people.

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Quote: Les Boyd Is God "yes...but then it all escalates further and other people stick there noses in...the do gooder brigade av won im afraid to say...'"


What's your solution?
Because it's obvious that there is a problem.

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Quote: 74' "Sounds like the journey from hell. This wasn't a club coach was it?'"


A Coachmaster coach. I would rather have paid the £10 extra and gone on a club coach

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Best way to avoid idiots on the coach is to go on the official coaches as you are not allowed to drink, I myself went on the original stevo's coach. Every one had a laugh with each other, drank as much as possible and enjoyed the day out. Biggest problem we had was arguing over whether we should listen to the same CD the driver played 10 times or watch max and paddy icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: Rugbychick™ "A Coachmaster coach. I would rather have paid the £10 extra and gone on a club coach'"

You should report it to him, he'll know the names then ban the morons...

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Quote: Rogues Gallery " Sadly respect for other people/ fans/ property seems to be diminishing.
And what's even worse it appears that some fans are tuning a blind eye towards the troublemakers.'"



dont talk through your back passage!! I`ve been watching RL for well ove 35 yrs, i`ve been through the bad years of the early 80`s, where fans of "all teams", including your own, were, at times, nothing more than out an out "Thugs"! I`ve seen fans chased to the railway stations, i`ve seen fans waiting outside grounds, for trouble/fights etc, i`ve seen bricks thrown through coach/car windows etc and yes, some of this at you`re good old wigan club, but fortunately, since the inception of SL , incidents such as this have been few and far between! Yes, there are incidents that happen at "Clubs", (not just warrington), but mostly, this can be put down to young scrotes that simply are unable to handle their ale! People such as yourself need to understand this, rather than spend your time trying to "Blacken" the image of clubs that are fortunate enough to reach the finals of our illustrious game. Drinking related problems are a big part of society as a whole, throughout the country, not just when warrington are taking part in a rugby league match!!!!
FWIW, me and my family spent 7 hrs, before and after the game, in and around wembley and i was aware of One scuffle between a couple of Leeds fans and One scuffle between a couple of Warrington fans near the Greyhound, not bad when there were 85,000 plus fans involved and a shed full of ale!Grow up and if you have nothing good to say about Rugby League, do us all a favour and simply spout you`re Hideous bile on your own forum!!!

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I think Warrington as a town as always had problems with drinking and fighting. I've spoke to people over the years from different places who have also heard of our reputation. We normally have 9000 odd fans at home games and when that grows to 35000+ for a big day out with plenty of drinking then there is going to be trouble as a lot of people don't know how to behave with a lot still thinking it is like the 80's again.

I don't know what the answer is. Better policing and stewarding perhaps. Beer throwing shouldn't be tolerated as it gets peoples backs up. Banning orders should be used for fighting in the stadium. I also think there should be better segregation in the areas that have been designated for the two finalists.

Rogues gallery asks why this is happening now but it's always happened. There was trouble in the Greyhound 20 years ago when we played Wigan.

On a positive note the vast majority of fans mixed together yesterday and would have gone home without seeing any trouble apart from the incident near the end, which was roundly booed by the same majority.

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Quote: the fucitolbladderwrack "dont talk through your back passage!! I`ve been watching RL for well ove 35 yrs, i`ve been through the bad years of the early 80`s, where fans of "all teams", including your own, were, at times, nothing more than out an out "Thugs"! I`ve seen fans chased to the railway stations, i`ve seen fans waiting outside grounds, for trouble/fights etc, i`ve seen bricks thrown through coach/car windows etc and yes, some of this at you`re good old wigan club, but fortunately, since the inception of SL , incidents such as this have been few and far between! Yes, there are incidents that happen at "Clubs", (not just warrington), but mostly, this can be put down to young scrotes that simply are unable to handle their ale! People such as yourself need to understand this, rather than spend your time trying to "Blacken" the image of clubs that are fortunate enough to reach the finals of our illustrious game. Drinking related problems are a big part of society as a whole, throughout the country, not just when warrington are taking part in a rugby league match!!!!
FWIW, me and my family spent 7 hrs, before and after the game, in and around wembley and i was aware of One scuffle between a couple of Leeds fans and One scuffle between a couple of Warrington fans near the Greyhound, not bad when there were 85,000 plus fans involved and a shed full of ale!Grow up and if you have nothing good to say about Rugby League, do us all a favour and simply spout you`re Hideous bile on your own forum!!!'"



I've been watching RL for a lot longer than that.
There was never any trouble in the 50's and 60's. If you want to hide behind the fact that there was a LOT of trouble yesterday then that's o.k.

There are different threads both on here and the Leeds boards about it, but you go and bury your head in the sand. You sound as if you were proud that there were only a few scuffles, Why should there be any?
I've never said that it was a Warrington problem, but you seem to insinuate that I have. If you can look back through my posts you will see that I have had a go at Wigan fans over incidents at Saints and Bradford.

I think it's you who needs to grow up.

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This 'handle your ale' myth and 'ban alcohol at stadiums' is hogwash.

I've been tanked up at some games, not once have i ever been aggressive or showed any ill will to anyone.

Alcohol just brings something out that is already in that person.
When I'm drunk i take the mick out of people and just want a laugh.

The trouble is in Warrington whether we admit it or not there are some 'sink' estates and some of these estates have unsavoury characters who like watching Wire but they don't want to change their characters and bad attitude just because they are at the game.
Alcohol or not they would still look to kick off, in fact i'd rather they be drunk, it makes them worse fighters.

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P.S. I`ve no doubt there were a million and one more arguments that took place yesterday, between "Both" sets of fans, but none of which were worthy of making any of either sets of fans out to be "Thugs"!! I`m simply "Sick To Death" of certain posters, from all clubs, trying to liken Rugby League Fans to football fans, whenever a game takes place, (and generally its the same posters time and time again)![sizeWe should be proud of our game and our fans, rather than "Constantly trying to drag them down to the level of the round ball game"!![/size

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We were in the upper tier and were completely unaware of any trouble. For the second year, we spent most of our day from 9am, drinking in wetherspoons, then at the ibis, then the stadium, with good beer, and great banter with opposition fans, without seeing a problem. Baring in mind, the amount of fans I came into contact with, posing for pictures with exceptionally (equally) drunk Leeds fans, I had nothing but another fantastically drunken, happy final. Just a counter argument for the doom mongers.....

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "I've been watching RL for a lot longer than that.
There was never any trouble in the 50's and 60's. If you want to hide behind the fact that there was a LOT of trouble yesterday then that's o.k.

There are different threads both on here and the Leeds boards about it, but you go and bury your head in the sand. You sound as if you were proud that there were only a few scuffles, Why should there be any?
I've never said that it was a Warrington problem, but you seem to insinuate that I have. If you can look back through my posts you will see that I have had a go at Wigan fans over incidents at Saints and Bradford.

I think it's you who needs to grow up.'"



I take it you`re the same rogues that takes to calling professional Rugby League players "Soft"!! (See the Saints Forum)! If so i would be "Astounded" if you are older than 15 yrs of age, as no adult, (or ex player), would dream of coming out with a statement such as this!!

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Quote: Timmy the Koi "We were in the upper tier and were completely unaware of any trouble. For the second year, we spent most of our day from 9am, drinking in wetherspoons, then at the ibis, then the stadium, with good beer, and great banter with opposition fans, without seeing a problem. Baring in mind, the amount of fans I came into contact with, posing for pictures with exceptionally (equally) drunk Leeds fans, I had nothing but another fantastically drunken, happy final. Just a counter argument for the doom mongers.....'"



Have to agree, Leeds fans were a "credit to our game" on Saturday!!!

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Quote: Timmy the Koi "We were in the upper tier and were completely unaware of any trouble. For the second year, we spent most of our day from 9am, drinking in wetherspoons, then at the ibis, then the stadium, with good beer, and great banter with opposition fans, without seeing a problem. Baring in mind, the amount of fans I came into contact with, posing for pictures with exceptionally (equally) drunk Leeds fans, I had nothing but another fantastically drunken, happy final. Just a counter argument for the doom mongers.....'"


That is pretty close to the day that most had. I don't think it's 'doom mongers'. Rugby has changed from the game I started watching in the 80's, when fighting was a regular occurrence. I for one hope that the events in block 109 are never repeated, but simply saying that we should all hold hands and share a few beers and banter won't prevent it. Something needs to be done.

My brother in law has never been to a Rugby match in his life, and knows nothing about the game. He's never been to Wembley, or any large sporting event. When I told him there were 30 young Leeds fans all drinking beer in the Warrington end, he ed himself laughing. I still would like to know how this happened. I don't mean this as a slur on the Leeds fans, given the reverse, the outcome would have been the same.

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Quote: 1905 "That is pretty close to the day that most had. I don't think it's 'doom mongers'. Rugby has changed from the game I started watching in the 80's, when fighting was a regular occurrence. I for one hope that the events in block 109 are never repeated, but simply saying that we should all hold hands and share a few beers and banter won't prevent it. Something needs to be done.

My brother in law has never been to a Rugby match in his life, and knows nothing about the game. He's never been to Wembley, or any large sporting event. When I told him there were 30 young Leeds fans all drinking beer in the Warrington end, he vexed himself laughing. I still would like to know how this happened. I don't mean this as a slur on the Leeds fans, given the reverse, the outcome would have been the same.'"

To be fair, there were quite a few Leeds fans in and around us, clearly in the wire end. It didn't cause any problems, barring a few moans when we went clear. Then again, I rarely see trouble anywhere at rugby. There is clearly an underlying minority problem, but nowhere near the scale some would have us believe.

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