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| Quote: Bondi_Warrior "and your next step would be to take your Fielden bashing to someone who actualy cares.... ![]()
he doesn't need to bash fielden.. half of super league are doing it for him 
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| Quote: JonnyBates "I think Ben westwood would get torn to shreds against the likes of Folau, Inglis, Hodges, Lyon, Morris brothers, Tonga etc... Joel is quicker than Ben Westwood which is why i'd play him as our second row of the bench.'"
He's one of the best tacklers in SL, and a better one than Joel. |
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1. S. Tomkins
2. T. Briscoe
3. Bridge
4. Shenton
5. Hall
6. McGuire
7. Eastmond
8. Morley
9. Sinfield (c)
10. Graham
11. J. Tomkins
12. Ellis
13. Westwood
14. Roby
15. B. Harrison
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17. S. Burgess
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| Quote: efcrhino "1. S. Tomkins
2. T. Briscoe
3. Bridge
4. Shenton
5. Hall
6. McGuire
7. Eastmond
8. Morley
9. Sinfield (c)
10. Graham
11. J. Tomkins
12. Ellis
13. Westwood
14. Roby
15. B. Harrison
16. Bailey
17. S. Burgess'"
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| Quote: 74' "He's one of the best tacklers in SL, and a better one than Joel.'"
Doesnt Neccessarily matter, Joel is quicker than ben westwood, thus using logic, he would be able to keep up with the speed of the aussie backs. An area in which we are lacking massively.
Quote: 74' "1. S. Tomkins
2. T. Briscoe
3. Bridge
4. Shenton
5. Hall
6. McGuire
7. Eastmond
8. Morley
9. Sinfield (c)
10. Graham
11. J. Tomkins
12. Ellis
13. Westwood
14. Roby
15. B. Harrison
16. Bailey
17. S. Burgess'"
Burgess on the bench? he's our best forward, by a long shot. I dont understand why you would play westwood 13 either, he hasnt got the ball handling skills to play 13.
What about sam tomkins? Time and time again danny mcguire has shown he cant preform at international level, whereas sam has done reasonably well.
Shenton doesnt look big enough for me. He'll just get walked over everytime by the likes of inglis and folau. I'd be much happier with ryan atkins in the centre's.
Just my opinions though. |
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S Tomkins
R Atkins
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C Bridge
R Hall
D McGuire
K Eastmond
J Graham
K Sinfield
A Morley
S Burgess
G Ellis
S O'Loughlin
J Roby
E Crabtree
A Lynch
J Tomkins
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| Quote: FearTheVee "S Tomkins
M Shenton
A Morley
S Burgess
S O'Loughlin
A Lynch
C Bridge
R Atkins
E Crabtree
D McGuire
R Hall
K Eastmond
J Graham
K Sinfield
G Ellis
J Roby
J Tomkins'" |
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| Quote: JonnyBates "Doesnt Neccessarily matter, Joel is quicker than ben westwood, thus using logic, he would be able to keep up with the speed of the aussie backs. An area in which we are lacking massively.
Burgess on the bench? he's our best forward, by a long shot. I dont understand why you would play westwood 13 either, he hasnt got the ball handling skills to play 13.
What about sam tomkins? Time and time again danny mcguire has shown he cant preform at international level, whereas sam has done reasonably well.
Shenton doesnt look big enough for me. He'll just get walked over everytime by the likes of inglis and folau. I'd be much happier with ryan atkins in the centre's.
Just my opinions though.'"
totally agree on sam tomkins... he is class and is easily the best 6 (and he can play full back) in super league ... but to say westwood isnt up to taking on the best in the world is way out... the guy is a trojan.
he has probably been our player of the year this season. |
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| Quote: JonnyBates "Doesnt Neccessarily matter, Joel is quicker than ben westwood, thus using logic, he would be able to keep up with the speed of the aussie backs. An area in which we are lacking massively.
Burgess on the bench? he's our best forward, by a long shot. I dont understand why you would play westwood 13 either, he hasnt got the ball handling skills to play 13.
What about sam tomkins? Time and time again danny mcguire has shown he cant preform at international level, whereas sam has done reasonably well.
Shenton doesnt look big enough for me. He'll just get walked over everytime by the likes of inglis and folau. I'd be much happier with ryan atkins in the centre's.
He wouldn't need to catch them because he would stop them ![]()
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| Quote: JonnyBates "Burgess is too good for prop. He is probably our best forward, dont think he should play out of position in all honesty. On top of that Burgess playing in the second row would give us more presence against the bigger stronger aussie backs. Helping out with tackling out wide etc...
I know this might spark up an argument, but i dont think westwood is good enough too force Burgess, ellis out to get into the starting 13. Burgess and ellis are bigger stronger and fitter, and it shows when they played for england against france. I dont even think Westwood is good enough to push joel tomkins out the 17, but if either of the three got injured, he'd be the first i'd bring in.
I think Ben westwood would get torn to shreds against the likes of Folau, Inglis, Hodges, Lyon, Morris brothers, Tonga etc... Joel is quicker than Ben Westwood which is why i'd play him as our second row of the bench.'"
Are you implying Tomkins could hold his own against the above? |
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| Quote: Wire_Yed "Massacred'"
Quite possibly, but that's our best side. |
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| Quote: Bondi_Warrior "and your next step would be to take your Fielden bashing to someone who actualy cares.... ![]()
OOOOOOOOOOH Matron.....
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| Quote: JonnyBates "Widdop
T.Briscoe
Bridge
Atkins
Hall
S.Tomkins
Eastmond
Morley
Roby/Sinfield
Graham
Burgess
Ellis
Lockers
Subs
Roby/Sinfield
J.Tomkins
B.Harrison
R.Bailey/ Another prop
Ellis and burgess to start 11 and 12 everytime imo.'"
burgess is prop or loose forward and deffo benny westwood after his performances this year. |
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| Quote: rawzy! "burgess is prop or loose forward and deffo benny westwood after his performances this year.'"
No he isn't, Burgess is a second row, then prop. |
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| Quote: 74' "No he isn't, Burgess is a second row, then prop.'"
I agree. But with the options we have available at second row, I'd sacrifice him playing at 2nd for him playing at prop, where after Morley and Graham, the others (aside from Peacock) aren't as good as Burgess at prop imo.
There's players in the 2nd row like Westwood, Tomkins and Ellis with Lockers at loose, who can all do the job well. |
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