Tosh. 2003 we beat all the teams below us and fell short.

We are different now. We bounce back well from defeats. We look solid for 90% of the time on the field. We have coped with losing Carvell and for shorter periods other players. You can't know how we will react to the pressure later in the season. The really big games (i.e. not round 14 of the league) which were QF, SF and Wembley last year, we played fantastically well. That QF was one special match.

That's BS sally. Unfounded speculation. Heard it all last year from you when you were telling us we could not win the CC.

I'm not predicting we will win anything by the way. However, I do think we have a good chance.

As the saying goes you have got to be in it to win it and we are still in it

In Smith We Trust? Come on.

Being a wigan fan wire saints leeds and wigan could win both trophies they are all good enough to beat each other on the day .So i for one aint writing any of them off.

Sometimes I wonder if Sally watches Warrington live.

I'm not saying we are a bad side and I'm not denying we are a long way ahead of where we have been at any point before in the SL era (including 2005). My estimations of where we are is top 4, possibly top 3 finish, but we won't win Super League this year. I just think it is a bit too big a step for us to take from where we were, to being able to win SL. Regarding the Challenge Cup a good draw again and we will be contenders but I feel that if we play Saints or Leeds when it counts, they will still have enough to get over the line against us. I would put Wigan in teh same category (ie they won't win this year either). It may be that we are starting to see a shift in the balance of power away from Saints-Leeds towards Wire-Wigan, but it will be in the next couple of years rather than this year.

Wires71 if you're so confident why not put your money where your mouth is like Paul Youane would. You win if we win any of minor premiership, Super League or Challenge Cup, I win if we don't. Suggest your stake?

I'm not afraid of a wager and I have one already for this season with Burnzy wire on relative performance of Wigan and Wire.

I'm not confident we will win anything but I live in a world where I'd rather believe in the potential for Warrington, you seem to err on the side of negative in a sort of "told you so" sort of way. The last time you "told us so" about the CC you were flat wrong.

Having said that I'll back my team I've watched for 31 years against any stake you care to muster at appropriate odds. How about a £1,000 3:1 on Warrington making a semi?

who does this tool support..take it its a scouse or toss pot wiganer

Probably the wrong thread for this but I'll link to the last bit of your post. I must be the only person kicking around that's thinking "I've not seen Solomona do anything for about 6-8 games".

I've really not.

That sort of 'jog on, hand up, ball, stick, whizz. Durr-der-der ...'

His impact has diminished.

6-8 games? We have only played 14. He's the real deal JWP.

Okay, fair enough, I might have been OTT with 6-8.

I'm just a bit sort of, I dunno, fearful that as the season rolls on, his lack of fitness becomes more of an issue and he struggles to make the same impact coming from the bench as he did early doors.

I like him alot, his hands are unreal. Perhaps I expect too much at times, It's not like I expected him to single handedly rip Leeds apart or anything like. It's just, I dunno, hard to explain I guess, I just want him back sort of 'dominating that left edge' again.

I get you. Fair enough and he looked very, very fat at Murrayfield despite the great win. Those shirts do him little justice.

I do know what you mean about private thoughts about a player's ability against the zeitgeist. I must admit I think Riley is over rated to a degree it isn't even funny. I often wonder what posters on here would have made of Fozzie, or Phil Ford for that matter, if they had been watching then. It's the WA localisation thing. Riley would not get a starting place in any of supposed peers' sides yet to 'us' he is beyond reproach. I see him as somewhere between Gaskell and Hicks in truth.