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Quote: steve "I think I would want a bit more for a quarter of a million pounds.'"


If that amount was spent on international,seasoned pro.Yes,you would but on a 19 year old who has 12 years of rugby in him,then no is your answer.

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Quote: robbierotten "If that amount was spent on international,seasoned pro.Yes,you would but on a 19 year old who has 12 years of rugby in him,then no is your answer.'"


then more fool on you he isn't a seasoned pro and no unproven player is worth that kind of money...should have spent it on developing youth rather than buying it.

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Quote: steve "then more fool on you he isn't a seasoned pro and no unproven player is worth that kind of money...should have spent it on developing youth rather than buying it.'"


We are developing it,plus we can afford to buy it ie Myler.

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Quote: robbierotten "We are developing it,plus we can afford to buy it ie Myler.'"


just because you can afford it doesn't make it right.

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The key for Myler is who Warrington find to replace Briers.

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Quote: steve "just because you can afford it doesn't make it right.'"


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IMO i don't really rate him and never have. I never really got what all the fuss was all about.

In myler's defence tho, he is a ball playing scrumhalf and only 19. With eastmond and tomkins they are runners of the ball as well as ball player, so they stand out more as they make more breaks. It's hard for a 19yr old lad to control the game like myler is expected to do.

If myler is as good as smith thinks then i don't think you will see the best of him until he's 21 when he will be more mature. When briers returns will help myler a great deal but don't expect a 19yr old kid to run a a side in super league as it will not happen.

Eastmond is finding it easier as he has super pace off the mark and has good power, he stands out more.

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Quote: St pete "IMO i don't really rate him and never have. I never really got what all the fuss was all about.

In myler's defence tho, he is a ball playing scrumhalf and only 19. With eastmond and tomkins they are runners of the ball as well as ball player, so they stand out more as they make more breaks. It's hard for a 19yr old lad to control the game like myler is expected to do.

If myler is as good as smith thinks then i don't think you will see the best of him until he's 21 when he will be more mature. When briers returns will help myler a great deal but don't expect a 19yr old kid to run a a side in super league as it will not happen.

Eastmond is finding it easier as he has super pace off the mark and has good power, he stands out more.'"



Agreed. I watched him at Salford and always said his only real talent is in backing up a break - and yes he is very very good at that. I posted something similar on this site when he left for Wire and was told it was sour grapes.
If you have a top class play maker beside him they he will be the top try scorer, but of you are relying on him to make the play, they you will be disappointed.

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Quote: SRLFC JK "Agreed. I watched him at Salford and always said his only real talent is in backing up a break - and yes he is very very good at that. I posted something similar on this site when he left for Wire and was told it was sour grapes.
If you have a top class play maker beside him they he will be the top try scorer, but of you are relying on him to make the play, they you will be disappointed.'"


Didn't set up that many tries last season then?

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Quote: St pete "IMO i don't really rate him and never have. I never really got what all the fuss was all about.

In myler's defence tho, he is a ball playing scrumhalf and only 19. With eastmond and tomkins they are runners of the ball as well as ball player, so they stand out more as they make more breaks. It's hard for a 19yr old lad to control the game like myler is expected to do.

If myler is as good as smith thinks then i don't think you will see the best of him until he's 21 when he will be more mature. When briers returns will help myler a great deal but don't expect a 19yr old kid to run a a side in super league as it will not happen.

Eastmond is finding it easier as he has super pace off the mark and has good power, he stands out more.'"


It's important that both Eastmond and Tomkins don't just sit back and rely on their pace and elusiveness to out fox the opposition, because as they age and injury's take there toll both will suffer in the speed stakes. It's therefore imperative that both continue to add strings to their bow, I see Tomkins play pretty much every week and you can see the change in him, yes he still attacks the line but his vision and selection of passes is becoming better and better, as is his kicking game.

Tomkins is slowly but surely not becoming the one trick pony that I feel Eastmond could. Granted I don't see the lad an awful lot, but from TV highlights and the games I do see other than Eastmond's remarkable pace and strength coupled with a good kicking game I just don't see the other facets that a great halfbacks needs, whether he'll develop them over time remains to be seen.

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Quote: LovesToSpooge "Tomkins is slowly but surely not becoming the one trick pony that I feel Eastmond could. Granted I don't see the lad an awful lot, but from TV highlights and the games I do see other than Eastmond's remarkable pace and strength coupled with a good kicking game I just don't see the other facets that a great halfbacks needs, whether he'll develop them over time remains to be seen.'"

Like Tomkins, Eastmond is just learning his trade. He is behind Tomkins in opportunity because Tomkins played many more games than Eastmond last season. However, Eastmond is gradually learning to direct play as well as do all the other things he is so good at. While pace does decrease with age, he's got plenty more years in him to 'out fox' the opposition. I'm sure over the coming seasons he will develop his game accordingly, as will Tomkins.

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for visible improvement in Eastmond's all round game, watch a tape of of the cup semi final -v- Hudds last year where he looked completely lost, then watch his game against Wire on Friday. His all round kicking game, vision and awareness, have improved dramatically, and he is now directing the team like a half back. If he carries on like that, in a couple of years he will be the best no7 in the world.

as for Myler, he looked a bit lost and confused on Friday - but it was probably the biggest game of his career (crowd, expectation in the team, no Briers to play with etc etc) and Saints definately targetted him early on. He will be a very good player for you lot - give him chance! Look at Sculthorpe when he first moved to Saints as a young lad and had the expectation of justifying the big transfer fee instantly. For 2 years he was pretty average, but look where he ended up.

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Quote: saints35 bulls0 "for visible improvement in Eastmond's all round game, watch a tape of of the cup semi final -v- Hudds last year where he looked completely lost, then watch his game against Wire on Friday. His all round kicking game, vision and awareness, have improved dramatically, and he is now directing the team like a half back. If he carries on like that, in a couple of years he will be the best no7 in the world.

as for Myler, he looked a bit lost and confused on Friday - but it was probably the biggest game of his career (crowd, expectation in the team, no Briers to play with etc etc) and Saints definately targetted him early on. He will be a very good player for you lot - give him chance! Look at Sculthorpe when he first moved to Saints as a young lad and had the expectation of justifying the big transfer fee instantly. For 2 years he was pretty average, but look where he ended up.'"

Agree about Eastmond. Thought he played a very good controlled game, excellent kicking.

Myler will be absolutely fine. He needs a good 6 to play alongside him, it's a shame that Clarke is out as well as Briers, as he would help him out.

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Quote: SRLFC JK "Agreed. I watched him at Salford and always said his only real talent is in backing up a break - and yes he is very very good at that. I posted something similar on this site when he left for Wire and was told it was sour grapes.
If you have a top class play maker beside him they he will be the top try scorer, but of you are relying on him to make the play, they you will be disappointed.'"



Quote: SRLFC JK "Didn't set up that many tries last season then?'"


Answer that myself then.

He got 15 try assists last season more then Tomkins and Eastmond now I didn't watch Salford much last season but clearly he must have the talent to send players over the line.

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I know it's a different sport, but it's took Wayne Rooney 5 years at Man Utd to develop into the footballer that he is now. At 24, they're now seeing what a talent he is on a consistant basis, rather than just glimpses.

I guess we can be pretty confident that for the time Smith is at the club, lets say 3 years, he's got one of the best coaches to learn from, so he couldn't have a better chance of blossoming, as the likes of Ronaldo & Rooney have under Ferguson.

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