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| Quote: christopher "Where I would be worried as a Wire fan is you guys haven’t seemed to have got any better at any point in the season.
Take us and what’s happened since Rohan Smith has come in, were a totally different side, with the same squad, and its is 100% down to the coach, he’s totally turned us around, were the form team in SL at the moment, if you have a poor start to next season you need to get shut of Powell'"
My take on this/hoping is that we're struggling because of the huge turn around in playing staff at the same time as the integration of young players. I've been impressed with Smith at Leeds, he seems to have made big improvements, but he hasn't had to contend with all the changes that Powell has.
I'm obviously backing Powell, but I get why many others aren't. Imo, whichever coach you bring in, given all the changes, they need to be given a reasonable amount of time to prove themselves. Sacking a coach part way through a season where there have been constant changes isn't prudent.
There are many examples of coaches in different sports whereby poor form may have resulted in early departures. Huddersfield were poor last year and they kept faith. Fergie at Utd was close to the door many times and we know the outcome by of sticking by him. Arteta at Arsenal was getting dogs abuse last season but now he's looking like a good appointment. Powell has a track record of improving teams and players, playing attractive rugby; he needs to be given a reasonable amount of time, given the circumstances, like other coaches have.
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| Quote: christopher "Where I would be worried as a Wire fan is you guys haven’t seemed to have got any better at any point in the season.
Take us and what’s happened since Rohan Smith has come in, were a totally different side, with the same squad, and its is 100% down to the coach, he’s totally turned us around, were the form team in SL at the moment, if you have a poor start to next season you need to get shut of Powell'"
I think Powell must have given our players the hair dryer treatment at halftime, as there was a major improvement in the 2nd half, especially in defence.
Prior to the game I thought we would get mullered by Leeds with 2 debutant forwards on the bench, and for the 1st 20 minutes, that was how the game went. We conceded some soft tries, which wouldn`t have been scored with a better defensive effort.
Pleasantly surprised with how well Luke Thomas played at prop, and Adam Holroyd did OK too.
The final Leeds try in the dying seconds of the 1st half gave Leeds a lead that they were able to just about hold on to.
Still a lot of work in defence and attack.
If Powell persists in playing Riley Dean, he needs to use the kid more. He has a much better long kicking game than Williams, but Williams was still doing the majority of our kicks last night. Dean`s distribution skills should be utilised more too in future games. However one of the tries we conceded was weak defending by Dean, so he needs to improve in that department himself.
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| So we nearly won? Ace.
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| Quote: DallasMead2 "So we nearly won? Ace.'"
In the context of this season ,last nights result is a definite positive. Cas on Thursday could be a good marker.
The end result following a second half recovery still glosses over 3 early & seemingly easy Leeds tries. Great to hear young Bentley was on form.
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| Quote: DallasMead2 "So we nearly won? Ace.'"
I guess you'll be moaning until we've won a grand final. If you'd followed Warrington since our last win, you'd have been moaning for 67 years.
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| Quote: Gazwire "If you look at previous sides he's coached, he does promote attractive attacking rugby. He just needs all the new players to bed in and assimilate, then hopefully we'll get to see some descent moves, though admittedly, we haven't seen that much yet and it sounds like we still have a way to go.'"
So it takes all coaches a pre season, a full season, another pre season and then some 'bedding in' time before we can see some attacking rugby? Brilliant! I wish someone would've explained all this to Paul Rowley.
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| Quote: Moe syslak "So it takes all coaches a pre season, a full season, another pre season and then some 'bedding in' time before we can see some attacking rugby? Brilliant! I wish someone would've explained all this to Paul Rowley.'"
Nowt we can do about it.
But next season we will either have a great winning team or a new coach.
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| Quote: Moe syslak "So it takes all coaches a pre season, a full season, another pre season and then some 'bedding in' time before we can see some attacking rugby? Brilliant! I wish someone would've explained all this to Paul Rowley.'"
Well, I don't know if your aware, but there has been quite a lot of player changes so he hasn't had a settled squad to work with thus far.
So you would have wanted Paul Rowley in?
What about Watson, Fergie and Arteta to name a few. Would you have had them out in their first season? I think the answer's yes going on your comments.
In your spare time, do you plant some seeds, see they haven't grown in a week, then chuck them out because they haven't grown. Then repeat this cycle, only to realise, after many attempts, that they need time to bed in and settle first before any growth?
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| Quote: Gazwire "Well, I don't know if your aware, but there has been quite a lot of player changes so he hasn't had a settled squad to work with thus far.
So you would have wanted Paul Rowley in?
What about Watson, Fergie and Arteta to name a few. Would you have had them out in their first season? I think the answer's yes going on your comments.
In your spare time, do you plant some seeds, see they haven't grown in a week, then chuck them out because they haven't grown. Then repeat this cycle, only to realise, after many attempts, that they need time to bed in and settle first before any growth?'"
You've written some drivel in support of Powell, but that seed analogy is the best yet!!
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| Quote: Gazwire "That was the first time this season after the earlier matches, as far as i can recall, that we have fought back in a sustained way against descent opposition. As I've said, it sounds like Leeds were poor second half so that helped. A reason for a little optimism would you say, or does it spoil your week because you're going to have to find something different to moan about?
It's not peacocking. I'm trying to bring a bit of positivity and highlight that the biggest gripe on here - lack of effort and throwing the towel in - could be changing, because, as I've said, we haven't seen that type of response this season in the second half.
With inflation, the Ukraine war and the repercussions of Brexit, you've got plenty to moan about, so don't worry lol.'"
At this point in time 'optimism' might as well be interchangeable with 'delusion' and thats what you're asking me to do. Be deluded. Again, we scored 2 tries after 40 mins on their line practically, and they were poor. Just like we only won against Cats because they were missing 8 of their starters including the whole pack. Those are just facts. You're tryna give Powell credit where there is non to be given. He's dog crap and so is the team currently. Optimism will return when we start winning something.
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| Quote: Gazwire "Well, I don't know if your aware, but there has been quite a lot of player changes so he hasn't had a settled squad to work with thus far.
So you would have wanted Paul Rowley in?
What about Watson, Fergie and Arteta to name a few. Would you have had them out in their first season? I think the answer's yes going on your comments.
In your spare time, do you plant some seeds, see they haven't grown in a week, then chuck them out because they haven't grown. Then repeat this cycle, only to realise, after many attempts, that they need time to bed in and settle first before any growth?'"
For every repetitive name you churn out as evidence to stick by Powell, I can give you a butt load of names by the same token as reason to put a boot up Powells ars to get out the door. Stop using it as evidence to put up with this absolute dross. The man has virtually had a year. We've gone monumentally backwards.
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| Quote: Moe syslak "You've written some drivel in support of Powell, but that seed analogy is the best yet!!
You wouldn't have the intelligence to discern the analogical meaning, so I'll leave you pondering.
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| Quote: WireWireWire "For every repetitive name you churn out as evidence to stick by Powell, I can give you a butt load of names by the same token as reason to put a boot up Powells ars to get out the door. Stop using it as evidence to put up with this absolute dross. The man has virtually had a year. We've gone monumentally backwards.'"
I'll use what ever I've evidence I deem appropriate thank you very much.
If you can't appreciate the link between the need for a settled squad and tactical development, then I'm wasting my time debating this with you. Although I obviously support Powell, we won't know for sure whether he's a good or bad coach at this stage of his career without the time to prove it, given all the upheaval.
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| Quote: Gazwire "I guess you'll be moaning until we've won a grand final. If you'd followed Warrington since our last win, you'd have been moaning for 67 years.'"
Good afternoon happy clapper Gaz must be 22 minutes since you last posted, has the site been down?
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| As said already, next season we’ll either be a good team or have a new coach. Powell was tasked by the club with razing us to the ground and building us back better. Whether he’s the right man to do it, will be clear soon enough. We all wanted these changes this time last year, even though we could have brought in another Price and continued our apathetical approach to becoming a properly successful club.
As disappointed as we all are, there’s no point demanding a change in coach or a return to our previous state of mediocrity during the first year of a revolution. Next year Powell has his team, and that bunch of players should be able to play with less pressure and more confidence and look like they’re building towards being a team that will compete at the very top. If they aren’t performing, I have absolutely no doubts that the club and Powell will go their separate ways. Until then I’ll have to be patient.
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