At the risk of incurring the wrath of the board, I thought his last play attacking high kicks were lacking in accuracy and potency, but it was a solid enough performance.

You don't win anything first week in February, we have a chance, other teams do too. You were wrong about King being dropped only yesterday! I fancy our chances and hope to enjoy the ride this season, I don't expect to win trophies but I expect to be in the hunt for at least 1 most seasons, this season I expect to be in the hunt for all 3 like last season even though we won none!

Agree with you Wire71, I get the feeling that's why Austin took over the kicking. I thought his passing was good and on the mark; in the overall Wire machine, his cog was turning fine and his well timed passes contributed to the win.

Won it pal. ...
And it's not about what we saw tonight that has made up my mind...but what we didn't. We could take 5 players or more out of that and replace them and it wouldn't make any significant difference.

That is why we'll win the lot.

I saw one lofty kick from Patton trying to get Lineham away that was better suited for a steward. ...please point out the other poor kicks. I don't recall them.

Patton did his job, nothing more nothing less. solid start by him.

Saddened, last nights game was not quality. It was a close game between 2 p1ss poor teams. Tonight was a game between a team that will be at old Trafford and a team that has spent big on TWO marquee players,................who won't!!

I'm very encouged but Leeds will improve a lot. Saints looked good on Thursday, especially with Walmsley back. Never write off Wigan. In the past 2 seasons, Cas have been there or thereabouts. It's never over till the fat lady sings and we've been waiting a long time for that moment. Let's keep our hopes in check- we've played literally one game. But, let's keep the optimism.

there's no hopes from me. A spade is a spade. Last season I expected 2 finals and top 2 with top 4 minimum.
That's what we got!
This season I expect the lot...and we'll win the lot. The squad quality is just too deep to fail.
I saw Saints...they played well but the depth in forwards is still shallow. Warmsley is massive for them no question. They'll be near us but not better. I still say Wakefield will be the strongest chaser.

I know what you mean about Saints' forwards, as in the SRs and LF. Zeb Taia is ok/good and Knowles, like Lees is one for the future, although I like both their fire- a bit like Philbin's hit on Hurrell. (Philbin is looking the real deal season by season).

You’re kidding yourself on if you genuinely think you’ll win the lot, you’ve still got a lot of bang average players(Patton, King, Atkins etc). Leeds were absolutely appalling, that performance from them warranted a 50 point defeat. Yes Warrington were good but there was a big element of them being made to look good, Kendall gave some ridiculously soft penalties in the first half as well. All it takes is Blake Austin to get injured for a long enough period and your chances of silverware evaporate. That said you are a good side and it’ll be between Saints and Warrington for the silverware this year.

Our depth in forwards is far stronger than yours. The list of every forward we’ve got is as follows: Thompson, Roby, Walmsley, Taia, Peyroux, Knowles, Paulo, LMS, Lees, Amor, Douglas, Smith, Ashworth, Bentley, Batchelor. There’s nothing shallow about that and we have the best pack in the league without a doubt. We have at least one top end super league in nearly every position so too say Wakefield are the strongest chaser (don’t know how you’ve decided it’s Warrington they’ll be chasing) is just plain stupid.

Morgan Knowles is 22 and has played 85 games, he’s definitely not one for the future and neither is Matty Lees.

The outcome of a single league game will have no bearing on anything. This arguement between you two is pretty funny. Both sides have huge mental issues when it comes to big games. We can't win big games period, you can't win finals. If it were Saints v Wire at Old Trafford, there'd be 80,000 people having a collective panic attack. The arrogance of you both is stupid. Wigan will still have a big say in things. You should do well this year, but as ever your conviction is just false, you were convinced you'd win both finals last year, look at your posts the days before those games.

No arrogance from me this year. Saints and Warrington are a fair bit ahead of everyone else. Both sides have got better and Wigan have got worse with the players they’ve lost and a new coach coming in. None of the other teams are close either, really. There will come a time when Saints will win a big game and same for Warrington with finals.