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| Quote: Ron "[iEvans is not a superb defensive centre, that is a myth.[/i.. he doesn't have the rugby intelligence required to be a great defensive centre. He is strong and fast, so if someone runs straight at him he will tackle them, but he missed a lot of tackles last season because he struggles to make decisions with things like numbering up or when players are running good lines.
Gidley is nearly 35, I am not basing my current judgement on how well or otherwise he played in the NRL... he hasn't been good enough to be a starting nrl fullback for quite a few years.. and yes in attack he didn't do much against Brisbane.
Just because we won the game, doesn't mean everyone was brilliant.'"
Sorry, I don't deal in myths. Evans is our best defensive centre since Allan 'the clamp' Bateman. Gidley was starting fullback for an NRL team in 2015 - less than two years ago. |
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Quote: Asgardian13 "Sorry, I don't deal in myths. Evans is our best defensive centre since Allan 'the clamp' Bateman. Gidley was starting fullback for an NRL team in 2015 - less than two years ago.'"
Yes and he wasn't good enough, he got constantly moved around positions, you're speaking like he played 20 games a season at fullback, he wasn't even newcastle regular fullback, Darius Boyd was from 2012 onwards... go on an nrl forum and ask Newcastle fans. Better yet read through this 20 page thread about him in 2014 where they basically say he is finished, and doesn't justify a position in the team forums.leagueunlimited.com/threa ... ey.432859/. Like I said, he hasn't been an NRL standard fullback for a long time, like Evans isn't good enough to be centre in a good sl team.
And Evans our best defensive centre in 25 years?  You listen to Stevo too much, who seen a couple of decent tackles and decided to label him as a monster in defence. Like I said, he is a decent tackler if you run straight at him... any player or ball movement and he is struggling. I would take Atkins over Evans in defence every day of the week, at least he hits hard whilst missing tackles.
Ill help you out a bit in the comparison.. Atkins made 413 tackles last season and missed 27. Rhys "best tackler since sliced bread" Evans made 375 tackles and missed 41. |
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Quote: Asgardian13 "Sorry, I don't deal in myths. Evans is our best defensive centre since Allan 'the clamp' Bateman. Gidley was starting fullback for an NRL team in 2015 - less than two years ago.'"
Yes and he wasn't good enough, he got constantly moved around positions, you're speaking like he played 20 games a season at fullback, he wasn't even newcastle regular fullback, Darius Boyd was from 2012 onwards... go on an nrl forum and ask Newcastle fans. Better yet read through this 20 page thread about him in 2014 where they basically say he is finished, and doesn't justify a position in the team forums.leagueunlimited.com/threa ... ey.432859/. Like I said, he hasn't been an NRL standard fullback for a long time, like Evans isn't good enough to be centre in a good sl team.
And Evans our best defensive centre in 25 years? You listen to Stevo too much, who seen a couple of decent tackles and decided to label him as a monster in defence. Like I said, he is a decent tackler if you run straight at him... any player or ball movement and he is struggling. I would take Atkins over Evans in defence every day of the week, at least he hits hard whilst missing tackles.
Ill help you out a bit in the comparison.. Atkins made 413 tackles last season and missed 27. Rhys "best tackler since sliced bread" Evans made 375 tackles and missed 41. | |
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| Quote: Ron "Yes and he wasn't good enough, he got constantly moved around positions, you're speaking like he played 20 games a season at fullback, he wasn't even newcastle regular fullback, Darius Boyd was from 2012 onwards... go on an nrl forum and ask Newcastle fans. Better yet read through this 20 page thread about him in 2014 where they basically say he is finished, and doesn't justify a position in the team
How did Darius Boyd go on Saturday?
A perfect chance to compare Gidley and Boyd on one field at the same time.... I know which one was better.
imagine Gidley taking Browns dummy... or standing there as last man pretty ineffective When Russell Scored.... .
where exactly does super fullback Boyd play in every Origin and test game he's selected in ....oh on the Wing you say. Some Fullback......!!!
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| Quote: Ron "
Ill help you out a bit in the comparison.. Atkins made 413 tackles last season and missed 27. Rhys "best tackler since sliced bread" Evans made 375 tackles and missed 41.'"
well done you understand how Atkins made the dream team..... 
Atkins also had the luxury of playing in every game he played Evans on the other hand was never so settled....
I doubt your even a wire fan ............ |
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| Quote: the flying biscuit "How did Darius Boyd go on Saturday?
A perfect chance to compare Gidley and Boyd on one field at the same time.... I know which one was better.
imagine Gidley taking Browns dummy... or standing there as last man pretty ineffective When Russell Scored.... ![]()
Boyd was the starting fullback for Australia and Queensland last season... and I never said he was super, I said he was brought in as Newcastle fullback in 2012 because Gidley wasn't good enough in that position, therefore supporting my point about him not being an nrl standard fullback for a lot of years.
But yes he is comfortably better than Gidley in that position, I don't tend to go off one game sample sizes.
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| Quote: the flying biscuit "well done you understand how Atkins made the dream team..... ![]()
Atkins made the dream team for his attack not his defence... he scored 17 tries compared to Evans 6. I guess his lack of tries was because he played on the wing too much?
Evans just isn't very good, and his lack of ability was a big reason behind us getting beat by Wigan last year... but Tony Smith chooses him, so not his fault.
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It was a pleasure to watch Kevin Brown's passing game. First and foremost he is able to pass, his pass timing and choice of who to pass to was spot on. Conversely, Atkins, Evans and Russell are unable to achieve any of the above. Wire blew two clear try opportunities, Russell had a 2 on I with Savellio inside him and held on and Evans had a similar situation and blew it. How many times have we seen Atkins pass into the crowd. It just beggars belief that at Super League level our back line and centres in particular have such limitations.
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Atkins looks for that off load or some flick when a pass will do.
With king at centre we have a. It of creativity in the centre has a bit to learn but has shown promise, with Russell or penny outside him we have some speed in that side and power close to the line and in the air on the other side
Our back line is not the best but we have the halves to get the best out of them.
I personally do not get the Atkins bashing Lyons Connollys n newloves don't grow on trees he's been a good super league centre for a very long time and in majority of our big games when fit has performed well. Of our current squad he is by far the best centre we have. Him n tom lineham should have a good season with brown n. Patton hitting them cross field kicks to them
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I wouldn't mind going for a pint with you Ron. You seem like a really upbeat, positive guy.
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| Quote: moving on... "I wouldn't mind going for a pint with you Ron. You seem like a really upbeat, positive guy.'"
I never realised this was a dating site. |
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| Quote: Smiffy27 "I never realised this was a dating site.'"
If you don't ask, you don't get. |
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I would have Gidley at 1 with Johnson as his understudy. Never ever have Russell at 1.
I would have Ratchford at right centre with King as his understudy.
I would have Russell and Penny fighting it out for a wing spot. Here is my back line:
1 Gidley
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3 Ratchford
4 Atkins
5 Lineham
6 Brown
7 Patton
Some good experience, guile, power and pace there.
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| Quote: Kevin Turvey "I would have Gidley at 1 with Johnson as his understudy. Never ever have Russell at 1.
I would have Ratchford at right centre with King as his understudy.
I would have Russell and Penny fighting it out for a wing spot. Here is my back line
Iv been calling for Ratch at centre a good couple of years now. I would love to see the above going forward.
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| Quote: moving on... "I wouldn't mind going for a pint with you Ron. You seem like a really upbeat, positive guy.'"
You will have a pint MF whilst Ron will just have a half I suspect....only kidding Ron |
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| Quote: LOngbarn Wire "Iv been calling for Ratch at centre a good couple of years now. I would love to see the above going forward.'"
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