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Quote: TrentBarrett "I must say I do think Hodgson is world class and has proved it on every stage possible. A 23 year old Brett would rack up equally as substantial stats and the fact he's one of the best players in the league at 34! shows how much of a rugby league great he is.'"

Its almost unbelievable that he can still perform at the level he does... what a player. It's no wonder we gave him another 2 year contract.. his quality show no signs of tailing off... obviously he cant play every week. But in the current setup, he doesn't need to.

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Quote: morleys_deckchair "Its almost unbelievable that he can still perform at the level he does... what a player. It's no wonder we gave him another 2 year contract.. his quality show no signs of tailing off... obviously he cant play every week. But in the current setup, he doesn't need to.'"

I didn't watch any NRL or State of Origin till about 3 years ago, but I've been watching the classic games they have on Fox and I gained so much more appreciation for the likes of Andrew Johns, Gordan Tallis and Brett Hodgson. I would easily consider Brett one of your finest super league signings.

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Those are some excellent statistics, although I would like to point out a few you left out:

Sam Tomkins:
Tackles 111
Missed Tackles 22
Errors 28

Brett Hodgson:
Tackles 78
Missed Tackles 4
Errors 16

I imagine Brett has played fewer games this season which may account for some of the errors, and Tomkins has fewer penalties given away (5 compared to 9), but 1 missed tackle for every 5 tackles is poor for one of the most important defensive positions in the game.

EDIT: actually, having gone through the stats, that's still better than most full backs in SL - only Leeds, Saints and Hull (as well as us) have better than that, and none of them close to Brett's missing 1 for every 20 made. I also noticed Mathers made 68 tackles this season and missed 35, that's an awful ratio.

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defensively sam would be torn to shreads in NRL so a good few years of him in SL

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Quote: Jaywire "Those are some excellent statistics, although I would like to point out a few you left out
and hes a man of steel candidate on the back of those stats..if hes one of our stars christ help us

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Those stats also show that Wigan are quite dependant on sam in attack.

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Quote: FireWire "As everyone knows it's because in this country RL is a minority sport, whereas in Australia it's second only to AFL and attracts some of it's finest athletes.

I would say that Sam is better than any of New Zealand's fullbacks though, which means there's a chance of beating them, on home soil at least.

Where would you rank Tomkins amongst the fullbacks of the NRL? Personally I'd say about seventh or eighth.'"

Josh Hoffman is very high quality.

Even the bottom five teams have good FBs: Jaryd Hayne, Lachlan Coote, Kevin Locke, Anthony Minicello, Darius Boyde.

My personal list would look like this:
1. Greg Inglis (in my opinion the best player on the planet of either code)
2. Billy Slater
3. Ben Barber
4. Brett Stewart
5. Jaryd Hayne
6. Josh Dugan
7. Marty Bowen
8. Darius Boyde
9. Josh Hoffman
10. Sam Tomkins/Kevin Locke

(being on that list shows he's a good player, being that low down in my views of the world of FBs isn't knocking him)

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Quote: TrentBarrett "I didn't watch any NRL or State of Origin till about 3 years ago, but I've been watching the classic games they have on Fox and I gained so much more appreciation for the likes of Andrew Johns, Gordan Tallis and Brett Hodgson. I would easily consider Brett one of your finest super league signings.'"

I always say you know how good a player someone is when they don't play. It's when you realise how much you miss them and know all the things you are missing in the game. It makes me appreciate a player so much more.

When Brett doesn't play Wire are a different outfit.

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Big feature on Sam on Transworld sport this week

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Quote: jdrocket "Better fullbacks? I'll probably see two in the same team on Saturday (pssst they play for Warrington)'"


Awwww, I felt for sure you were talking about Wellens and Hohaia!

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Quote: danburge82 "As everyone knows it's because in this country RL is a minority sport, whereas in Australia it's second only to AFL and attracts some of it's finest athletes.

I would say that Sam is better than any of New Zealand's fullbacks though, which means there's a chance of beating them, on home soil at least.

Where would you rank Tomkins amongst the fullbacks of the NRL? Personally I'd say about seventh or eighth.'"

Josh Hoffman is very high quality.

Even the bottom five teams have good FBs
Marty Bowen icon_lol.gif I don't know where to start on your post but you clearly don't watch the NRL.

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I am sick and tired of seeing him to trying to referee the game and get opponents penalised. Tart.

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Devastating with ball in hand, and a player that I'm sure just about every Rugby team in the world (either code) would love to sign, but not a full back for me. I suspect Wigan might have been better off spending their money on a fullback (or promoting from within if they have young player deemed good enough) and moving Tomkins to Stand Off as he is a far far better halfback than either of the two they signed.

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Quote: TrentBarrett "Marty Bowen Why because my phone's predictive text spelled Matty incorrectly?

You do realise I said "my personal" and "in my opinion". That doesn't mean it's cold hard fact.

But Inglis has the lot, literally. Nobody will convince me there is a better rugby player on the planet no matter what they say.

Then, I watch all the games Premier Sports air. Every week Bowen is superb at the Cowboys. Dugan is a fantastic young player. And the rest are like Supermen at times WITH GOOD DEFENCE to boot!

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Quote: danburge82 "Then, I watch all the games Premier Sports air. '"


To put it crudely but succintely, you need a good ----.

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