Interesting point. The general concensus was Louis' desire to play alongside his brother, does the novelty of that being the case distract somewhat?

IMO louie is immature and seems more intent on having a biff than winnning the game.

If/when he applies himself properly he could be a player.

If you could convince him to just run the ball in, not offload, or pass, he'd be good. His game falls down when he has thoughts. He's the only player I know who you wish didn't have a 'rugby brain'. The amount of times that you don't get to finish your clap for his good work and he's ruined it with something daft.

True.

the only ones i`d keep
riley
penny
harrison
westwood
p.wood
bridge
morley(just)

the rest can go

I think our forwards defend well one on one, but I think sometimes we're too 'central' so to speak. I was watching the NRL the other day, I think it was Canberra vs Cronulla, I didn't watch it all, just a few bits and there was a point where I think it was Cronulla attacking the Raiders' line, and they got it wide and it looked like a walk-in, only for about 3 Raiders players to come sliding out of (what seemed like) nowhere to get him in touch. It seems that if sides attack our line and swing it out wide, a lot of our players are very central and close together, leaving massive gaps out wide, I sometimes think that our forwards are very close together, especially when Rah is on, as he isn't the most agile so it seems they're covering for him quite a lot.

It may seem unfair comparing us to an NRL side, but it was top class defence and the sort of stuff we should be aiming for. I've not managed to see us half as much as I would like to this year, so this may have picked up of late under Smith, but it's just a general thought I've had for a while.

GO

MAYBE

STAY

Thought I'd bump this 'cause there were one or two interesting points made, and the thread seemed to disappear due to some of the ignorant dross wrote today that's been locked or whatever.

Around the turn of the century we used to do that loads. Gang tackle into touch normally with Lee Penny at the heart of it.

I'll make this easier.. Keep hold of:

King
Carvell
Higham
P Wood
Westwood
Morley
Bridge - depends on form between now and e.o.s

Plus all or most of

Cooper
Penny
Riley
Blythe
McCarthy
Mitchell
Harrison

All the rest can go for me.

These are the players i would let go:

Lee Briers
Michael Monaghan
Louis Anderson
Vinnie Anderson
Jon Clarke
Steve Pickersgill
Chris Bridge
Chris Hicks
Chris Riley
Simon Grix
Kevin Penny

both andersons (not good enough)
rah (financial reasons only)
monaghan ( not up for it)

thats it.
we still have gleesons wage to spend plus the wages of the above four and two of those are on superior contracts.

Lee Briers
Michael Monaghan
Louis Anderson
Vinnie Anderson
Paul Wood
Paul Rauhihi - going anyway, has been good for the past 2 years
Jon Clarke
Steve Pickersgill
Paul Johnson
Simon Grix

Seems like a lot of players to replace, V Anderson has been a huge dissapointment for me. However, the difference in performances may be because Saints made him look good and we make him look as good as he is?

There are too many enigma type players at the club IMO, could be a reason the unpredictability of performances

Some saints fans would probably argue whether he ever looked good I expect!

I don't have a huge opinion on comings and goings. It's exciting to see things happening and I'll just enjoy it. I wouldn't complain if I didn't have to see the big sulks face every week though.