Rich coming from the manager of a team who should have had a player binned for a professional foul

...He's from our youth system...

Nitpicking here a bit but Sam's 18. Thanks for the kind words!

It was the most obvious result of the weekend IMO. Wigan's away record is absolutely horrendous. The only wins they pick up are at places like Wakefield.

Their pack is so powerpuff they offer no opposition to anyone. They don't even stand up to the physical stuff anymore. Westwood and Sims were pumped up last night, expecting a big fight. Lots of chest banging, lots of aggression. Wigan didn't respond at all. If Sims had done what he'd done against any other side in pro RL there would have been a brawl. If Westwood did what he did to Larne Patrick, where he was just randomly bullying a Wigan forward long after the ball had gone, any other side would have been in there. Wigan just had nothing. It makes me wonder if there are real problems at Wigan behind the scenes. There are rumours of 'bad news' coming that the fans won't be happy with at all and the famous Wigan team spirit has just gone. Perhaps it's just the Grand Final fallout still, where Wigan know they can't behave like that anymore and have nothing else to fall back on? That or they are all hacked off with how much Sammy Boy will be earning next season.

Really wouldn't surprise me if the Wigan players are trying to get shut of Wane currently. Nothing there but professional players going through the motions.

Wigan were awful because of the bite, speed and aggression in our defence. We bullied them out of their shape and gameplan.

Care to elaborate?

Very true. But you'd expect a Wane-Wigan side to react to that and hit back. And if that didn't work to just hit out. They did nothing.

I thought we looked a much more balanced team last night just with Russell at full back & Ratch at centre & it was an excellent team performance & not a bad player in sight.
Still confused with the ref's interpretation of off side at the play the ball though, Wigan got away with murder at times.

The punches on Williams on the floor? Williams took the ball up and was tackled by Sims and someone else. As he went to the floor, Sims can be seen on the replay repeatedly punching his head/face as he's defenseless on the floor.

I think fortunately for Sims the punches were very weak, he was trying to hide them as much as possible so there wasn't much back lift. I wouldn't be surprised to see him called up for a chat though.

I wouldn't have called them punches, he was definitely roughing him up with a bit of treatment on the floor and deserved a penalty but a ban?

Haven't watched the game back, did Wigan even react to that? If a Wiganer had done that to Myler, Sims and Westwood would have been right in there. Wigan just looked scared to death for most of the night.

For scared to death read " Could not be d "

Something seriously wrong at Wigan right now . Wire played them off the park .

Regards , EW

something in the can't be d. from the second or third set you had, your forwards were taking ages to get back, on one lot you were 4 tackles in before mcilorum got back on side. Gelling was blowing out of his from very very early on as well, he shouldn't have been picked.

It was Sims and Clarke in the tackle. You can see him throw two punches at the guy. Yes they were soft and i don't think he connected. Be interesting to see if anything comes of it but with RFL's disciplinary panel being odd who knows it could either be a ban or not even picked up on. Your right about if it had been one our lads then it would gone off. Wigan tried to get aggressive and we just dealt with it with controlled aggression and proper hits. The hit from Sims on this tackle was incredible.

Ref certainly didnt help his case last night. Very often either the ref or the PTB was on a line and it was clear that the ref had retreated 12 metres. That thing was supposed to have been correct a few season again......10 means 10 ....OR if you are in front of the ref, you are offside, even if he has gone back 15.