You forgot Blake Green.

Anyway - what's your point? Do Wire players never play through the pain? Because knowing Rugby League players - I doubt that very much.

I'm pretty certain that there has never been any lack of courage with your players, just as there wasn't with those mentioned above. It's just that they might have been more high profile at the time, so they spring to mind more easily.

Yes, please do. While you're at it name the Wire players that have similarly played through injury. Then make your point.

Biggest pile of crap I've read in a long time. Care to elaborate on this style that's so damaging to the Wigan props? Would it involve running the ball in? Tackling? What exactly is it that the Wigan front row (sorry...robots) do that your own props don't?

How's Simon Grix doing?

What are you on about? I said the duty of care to the players was in relation to playing too much Super League rugby in the forwards at a young age.

Now would any of the Wigan fans posting on here care to respond to the question I posed three pages ago:

"Now you tell me which of Wigan's academy produced props have matured into their careers rather than peaking early and fading away generally under an injury cloud?"


Obviously don't expect Rogues to answer this as we all know on here he has a history in respect to dodging questions.

Give me strength, I replied to your question in the post following it. The whole issue is about forwards playing too much Super league rugby too early in their careers at a cost to the longevity of their careers. Is that so hard so understand?

So you can now answer the question I posed.

"Now you tell me which of Wigan's academy produced props have matured into their careers rather than peaking early and fading away generally under an injury cloud?"

im no wigan fan.. however i DO know the answer to this question.

Try to not to get so exasperated Paul. You still haven't come up with any names other than Paul Prescott to support your theory. Until to do it is just prejudice masked as a theory. It isn't hard to understand, no. But you need EVIDENCE.

Too bad Joel Tomkins is a backrower.... His name would be the easiest.

What a crock of shat.

Apropos of what exactly?????

I believe Wigan & Huddersfield have also done a season long swap ,Larne Patrick for Jack Hughes ....are they forwards or backs ?

In an attempt to move this along. Props at Academy level are notoriously difficult to handle. Very few make it to the senior game. Many of the props in Super League started as second rowers or even in the backs (Morley, Peacock, Clubb).

I suspect that a trawl through the Warrington books over the last ten years won't produce many prop forwards who are still playing at the top level.

But I've tried to come up with Wigan's forwards (second row or prop). So here goes -
Crosby
Farrell
Burke
O'Loughlin
Hock
Hansen
Tomkins
O'Carroll
Kavanagh
Mossop
Allen
Jewitt
Wild

And the ones who retired early - Prescot and Hargreaves. Not sure what happened to Davies at Widnes.

Ok, so prove that Wire are better.