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| Paul Wood tweeted he's sitting in hospital as I speak having treatment for a ruptured testicle, oh the glamour!
Briish Rugby League, best game in the world played by the best sportsmen in the world, and I'm glad I'm lucky enough to have been born into it
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| Quote: Thelonius "Not so much gutted about the result, rather I'm disappointed. Leeds are a champion team when it comes to playoff/grand final rugby, they have been there and done it so many times.
However, I am gutted about the whole Grand Final experience. Get in there early, to take in any atmosphere/entertainment, and find that whilst I had a pretty amazing seat with an incredible view behind the sticks there was stuff all to keep me 'entertained' except from some bird dangling from a big balloon for 5 minutes just before the teams came out.
Then the drunken cretins arrived. The drunken cretins who thought it was fabulous fun to burst balloons right next to the ears of the people in front of them. The drunken cretins who only had one volume, VERY LOUD, and couldn't string a sentence together without filling it with copious quantities of F and C words. The drunken cretins who managed to get their ale to their seat and managed to pour a fair bit of it over me (pretty certain it was deliberate). The drunken cretins who weren't Leeds or Wire fans (though I'm pretty certain that they did have Yorkshire accents). Fortunately the drunken cretins disappeared just before half time, and never came back
I like Wire fans especially after the 2011 cc final .I thought their fans were most gracious,and I have even made friends with some of them,but after Wembley there was some unsavousy behaviour from some Wire people ,banging on coach windows etc.Thats how it goes nowadays
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| Quote: Saddened! " In Australia they used to say you have to lose one to win one.'"
This.
Getting to the grand final itself was the major hurdle to overcome. We lost because of a lack of experience on that stage (whereas Leeds have it in bucketloads). We are still learning as a team and this was just another step on the ladder. Within the next five years we'll reach at least one more final, if not many more.
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| How does this thing of having to lose a final to learn how to win one work?
We didn't have to lose a Challenge Cup final to learn how to win one, we got to three and won them all. Leeds have lost six so how many do they need to learn to win one?
If we had beaten Leeds last year in the playoff but lost to Saints in the Grand Final, could that have been the difference that got us the extra 2 tries today?
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| Quote: sally cinnamon "How does this thing of having to lose a final to learn how to win one work?
We didn't have to lose a Challenge Cup final to learn how to win one, we got to three and won them all. Leeds have lost six so how many do they need to learn to win one?
If we had beaten Leeds last year in the playoff but lost to Saints in the Grand Final, could that have been the difference that got us the extra 2 tries today?'"
In 2004 a young leeds team played their first grand final against an experienced bulls team. They won!
So this thing of having to lose one to win one isn't true, it's just there for consolation because losing the 'first one' is a b*tch. Losing it isn't so bad when you've had recent wins. But the first one, it's a kick in the nuts.
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| I'm okay about it really. We didn't deserve to win.
The game was very poor for me. Neither team played well, we just knocked it on a lot and offered Leeds good field position.
If either team had turned up at their best they would have trounced the other side. Leeds were poor-ish, Wire were shyite.
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| Quote: sally cinnamon "How does this thing of having to lose a final to learn how to win one work?
We didn't have to lose a Challenge Cup final to learn how to win one, we got to three and won them all. Leeds have lost six so how many do they need to learn to win one?
If we had beaten Leeds last year in the playoff but lost to Saints in the Grand Final, could that have been the difference that got us the extra 2 tries today?'"
In 2009 we were fortunate enough to have played Huddersfield, who had a similar lack of finals experience themselves, so that helped us get a grip on the occasion. Leeds, on the other hand, haven't won the cup since 1999, and repeated finals defeats can take their toll on a side. Likewise, their repeated grand final victories allow them to be in their element when another final comes, as they know how to handle the occasion perfectly. For me, it is similar to our own hoodoo against Saints; after one win, we were subsequently able to rack up several.
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| Quote: danburge82 "
The game was very poor for me. Neither team played well, we just knocked it on a lot and offered Leeds good field position.
If either team had turned up at their best they would have trounced the other side. Leeds were poor-ish, Wire were shyite.'"
Can't agree with this......It was a good, tight game of rugby, between two well matched sides. The only difference being Kevin Sinfield.
Put simply, if you were giving marks out of 10 for each player's performance, 33 players would have got 6 or 7 out of 10, Sinfield was a definite big 9.....None of our players raised their game to the level needed to win a Grand Final, or more importantly, Leeds did not allow us to raise our game.
First rule of Rugby League tactics is to stifle the opposition, if you do that you are 80% there.....We didn't stop Sinfield and it sadly told.
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| Quote: danburge82 "I'm okay about it really. We didn't deserve to win.
The game was very poor for me. Neither team played well, we just knocked it on a lot and offered Leeds good field position.
If either team had turned up at their best they would have trounced the other side. Leeds were poor-ish, Wire were shyite.'"
Wewere just trumped by a more enthused, more experienced Leeds side. Sorry pal, but I have to disagree with your assessment there.
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| Quote: danburge82 "I'm okay about it really. We didn't deserve to win.
The game was very poor for me. Neither team played well, we just knocked it on a lot and offered Leeds good field position.
If either team had turned up at their best they would have trounced the other side. Leeds were poor-ish, Wire were shyite.'"
To me the Wire didn't play thebest we have seen but Leeds didn't allow us and credit to them for what they have achieved. Soreline wise the game was balanced until the last 10 mins when they pulled away. So a tight intense game, but to say Leeds were poor and Wires were , sorry have to disagree.
You just have to read threads from neutrals and they were calling it a brilliant, immense game best GF for years etc.
Were were there, just not good enough.
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| Thought Leeds were pretty good and stifled Wire when they needed to. Leeds were more composed on the day and won the battle up front over the course of the 80 mins.
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| Very disappointed because if we had played 10-15% better the game was there to be won. Apologies for the cliche
The long journey home commences sat in Manc airport and thoughts of my next live game on Boxing Day.......
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| I feel more disappointed today. It must be a delayed reaction. I've been thinking about how close we were to winning the big prize, it really was within our grasp if we had had one better 20 minute session of rugby. Just watching the end of game montage on Sky and thinking it could have been Adrian Morley lifting the Super League trophy, Briers and Westwood coming up to the fans with the trophy at the end and us double winners and assured of a place in history as one of the greatest.
You never know what will happen in the future and if we slide back down next season, players retire and TS leaves we may yet end up looking back at this moment as the closest we got to ever touching the SL title. For many years we looked back at the Jonathan Davies era and missing out on the title to Wigan on points difference as what might have been.
I guess all of us that are Wire fans these days have to be thankful to Simon Moran, Tony Smith and the great players that have worn our jersey, Briers, Morley, Westwood, the Monaghans, Hodgson, Carvell, Waterhouse, these guys have given us something we haven't had for years which is the chance to enjoy a quality set of players play good rugby and have great spirit and pride in the jersey. They have allowed us to have hope of winning the title. Next year will probably be the last chapter of this era of Wires so lets make the most of it and appreciate them and maybe they'll do it.
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| Quote: sally cinnamon "
Last year was much more gutting than this but overall nothing has ever come close to the disappointment (for me) of losing the playoff to Hull in 2005 with Johns in our team, that was the worst ever day for me as a Wire fan.'"
Maine Road challenge cup semi 1989. Nothing will ever come close........
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| Quote: the flying biscuit "Maine Road challenge cup semi 1989. Nothing will ever come close........'"
Now i was just talking about this game, talking of tension at a game, this was the scariest game i've ever been too, i was 10 years old and remember being terrified after the game.
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