It was the correct call. However this was virtually the only forward pass in the whole game that Thaler called. The amount that both he, and in particular the touch judges, missed or ignored today was appalling.

Not making excuses however. as the title of the thread states the better team won today.

And Craig Fitzgibbon is as much a freak of nature as Benny Westwood. If you had these 2 on the same team you wouldnt need anymore forwards.

Fitz is an absolute machine, the guy is a great example to any young player, he run his guts out every week makes 40-50 tackles a game aswell as numerous hitups and he's a born leader it's been a pleasure to watch him at Hull for two years and will be near impossible to replace imo.

you havent burst my bubble pal I'm living the Feckin dream....

2nd in the league, holders for the last two years of the most famous trophy in the game, have the best attack in the league by some distance and have the second best defence in the league.
have pots of money to buy anyone we bleedin well like and growing our ground because weve got loads of bandwagoners rolling in by the week.....

We're and we know we are
We're and we know we are....

come on .....jump in....

If I was daft enough to buy the DVD of today's game, I'm pretty sure that I'd find that Thaler didn't get much wrong.
Sure, he missed a couple of forward passes (excuse me, but aren't touch judges actually supposed to do something, other than stick their flags up, when the ball goes into touch), but some of the South Stand's appeals for forward passes were embarrasing (I thought I'd been transported to the touchline stand at Knowsley Rd). They plainly weren't forward, but that filthy Carlsberg, must be affecting some speccies eyesight. Same again for knock ons, one of their dropped balls went 2 yards backwards (and the player was facing his own posts), and pondlife corner goes into Fukushima nuclear meltdown.

This game (especially in the second half) was a carbon copy of the Hudds game. Forced passes with 30+mins to go, when we are only trailing by two points, is suicide. Constantly giving the ball away on the 1st and 2nd tackle is, again, suicide.
Our forwards were so far off the pace today, it was laughable.
Hull destroyed us down the middle, Fitzgibbon especially
Well done Hull, by far the better side.

Oh, and last point, the treatment of Gleeson today was dreadfull. Yes, we needed to make it difficult for him, but the abuse he took, for a player who NEVER let us down, was out of order. He left us 2 years ago, and played for another club in the meantime. Contrast this to Hull,'s treatment of Carvell who left Hull for here...there wasn't a peep from them.

But Hull FC aren't small time.

Who said they were, Pie muncher????????????????? Not I

I think you miss the point...

I think Ben Thaler had a shocker. There was a certain amount of desperation from the south stand at times. I know which knock on you are talking about and as I was at half way I though it looked stone wall knock on but I quickly calmed down. Where Ben Thaler missed a lot (or maybe it is the TJ again) was the number of times Hull's line looked like a banana and the times they were blatantly offside. That was a shame today.The touch judges today were really really poor. I was embarrassed for them at times.

Agree it was a copy off the hudds game. It isn't the only time we have been in that mindset too. I don't know whether The coaching staff are focussing on it for improvement but it looks like we have developed a nasty habit. It is a kick in the teeth that we can't play free flowing rugby unless we have so much dominance. We have great forwards on paper but too many times this year they haven't turned up. I thought the Hull team (Fitzgibbon) were pulling a few Briers moments on the floor, but not the end of the world.

I think most of the south stand would agree with what you are saying about Gleeson and that is probably why there was only on good chant at him and some boos at the start of the game. I'd like to think it was good fun but maybe some took it too far. I would hope most realised he was once PnB and it is only a game at the end of the day.

We were poor all over the pitch our line speed in defence was rubbish we just stood there and allowed Hull to run at us,not to take anything away from Hull who were just the better team on the day I would prefer to get all of our rubbish displays out of the way now rather than at the end of the season !
Thaler was a joke but what ref's aren't so cant blame him ! it was another one of those flat performances which IMO can still be attributed to resting players for the Catalans game which IMO is where we lost our momentum Winning is a habit and we seem to have lost it !

I think the Wigan fan is trying to imply that our fans are small time.

You're right Padders, I know what you're getting at, I agree, we missed Bridge.

Gleeson has given them a lift by signing, agreed. But with respect to Hull, they didn't need to do anything complicated to beat us yesterday. Gleeson rarely touched the ball for a start.

And I'm not one to take anything away from a triumphant opposition, ie, I was quick to throw praise at both Hudds and Catalan for their victories over us. Yesterday we just offered Hull the two points gift-wrapped.

The way I saw it was that you were getting nothing out of our pack so you panicked and tried to throw it wide at every opportunity which is where the errors came. Had you stuck to your game plan the chances may have presented themselves (unless that was your plan, who knows?) but the forward pass aside you didn't look like scoring in the second half. Hull just bossed the midfield and for once our kicking game was decent.

The way you responded to going behind was to do what we normally do and that is try to score on every set, when simply completing and kicking well will present you with try scoring opportunities.

We were nothing special yesterday, we just played a simple game at a high intensity and your forwards couldn't match it.

Pretty much how I saw it.

We lacked the patience and we should have backed our pack all the way. Also, you had Tom Briscoe, we didn't. Our 'ace in the pack' Monas, just didn't play well yesterday, so we were out trumped.

Not how I saw it at all. Hull were shattered in the second half and were there for the taking. We were containing them comfortably when they had the ball, we just kept giving it back to them via penalties, chargedowns and then dropping it early in our tackle count. When we did keep the ball for a few tackles, we were making plenty of yards and loads of breaks. But then we played panic rugby and threw wild passes and daft offloads.

We actually beat ourselves. If we'd cut out the mistakes and the panic rugby, I think we'd have won easy.

Best team won the game, no question. Most of our problems can be traced to our ball retention. Watching us play yesterday was like watching Fearne Cotton presenting TV programmes; attractive to a point but sooner or later you know something crap is going to happen to spoil it all.

Oddly, it started in a similar fashion to the Crusaders and Salford games. Relatively even first 20 minutes. Difference is that we started trying to score of every set rather than building pressure and playing the game in the right end of the field as we did in the last two routs. I'm not suggesting for a second that we'd have put 60 on Hull had we retained the ball better but if we'd have even improved that by 20% it would have made a difference.

Hull are in a false position. That said, I can't see them progressing properly whilst Agar is still there, results like yesterday only serve to increase the chance they'll retain him.

Seems to me we struggled without Myler, looks like no Myler no win

Myler did not play in the second half against Salford in which we scored 42 unanswered points.......................

When he's missing there's nobody else who can take control the way he does. We need to start thinking about his replacement.

you might be surprised!

I couldn't get up to the game yesterday..so I had to listen to the very biased BBC Humberside radio coverage...their commentators could not believe how many forward passes Thaler let go...to Hull's advantage....the bloke is incompetent in the extreme.

They (BBC Hull) were even chuckling when we throw a 50/50 pass and it gets pulled up!



Not saying it would have change the result...but if the ref and the linesmen can't get the basics right, then what's the point?

I HATE charge-downs...too risky..we never seem to get much benefit from them.

Why is it every forum seems infested by a wind up artist?

For what its worth I think your comments on this thread have been quite complementary to Hull.We usually get accused of lucky wins.

Think how we must feel,its usually towards Rovers.

oh you tease...