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| Nice...
A well researched, intelligent and thought through response.
The point wasn't whether John was doing a good job there, it was with him being labelled as being "the mastermind" behind the Leeds youth system and according to the Wire fans the main reason Leeds have won the last 3 GF's.
Try spending half an hour in the company of John Bastian and Stuart Wilkinson and then say who is the most intelligent.
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| Quote: el red "Nice...
A well researched, intelligent and thought through response.
The point wasn't whether John was doing a good job there, it was with him being labelled as being "the mastermind" behind the Leeds youth system and according to the Wire fans the main reason Leeds have won the last 3 GF's.
Try spending half an hour in the company of John Bastian and Stuart Wilkinson and then say who is the most intelligent.'"
John Bastian claimed to be the person responsible behind the producion of the above mentioned players.
Secondly, you must be one of the most intelligent people to grace this planet to determione someone's IQ after thirty minutes of conversation.
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| Thanks for that, I knew the PhD would be worth it in the end lol...
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| Quote: getdownmonkeyman "John Bastian claimed to be the person responsible behind the producion of the above mentioned players.
Secondly, you must be one of the most intelligent people to grace this planet to determione someone's IQ after thirty minutes of conversation.'"
That should read 'never claimed' a typo on my part.
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| Quote: el red "Thanks for that, I knew the PhD would be worth it in the end lol...'"
Pizza Hut Deliveryboy?
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| ....and theres me reading this Topic expecting to have some sort of narrative on the events of last night, like, what did Hicksy say, what did Clarkey say, was he surprised that when he came out on Sunday he was cheered, and not the usual boo's (which I think have tongues firmly in cheek by the way...).
But no, it has deteriorated into the usual inane slagging off of posters, I knew there was a reason I haven't bothered here for a while.
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Good night last night with a great top table of guests who all contributed well (the umbrella organisation of all Trusts) and she talked about how the more RL Trusts there are and the more members each one has, the more weight SD has when it does things like talking to Government about support for the Sport.
If anyone has any (geniune) points or queries they want to raise, feel free. Either here, or via one of the Trust Board members. Check out the website too for more info:
www.squadbuilder.co.uk/
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Good night last night with a great top table of guests who all contributed well (the umbrella organisation of all Trusts) and she talked about how the more RL Trusts there are and the more members each one has, the more weight SD has when it does things like talking to Government about support for the Sport.
If anyone has any (geniune) points or queries they want to raise, feel free. Either here, or via one of the Trust Board members. Check out the website too for more info:
www.squadbuilder.co.uk/
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| How about leaflets handed out at home games with info about Squadbuilder?
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| Quote: Wire_74 "Christ.
Must be awful for Bastian to produce the likes of McGuire, Burrow, Hall etc.'"
Bastian had nothing to do with the real 'stars' of the Leeds youth, Burrow Mcguire, Mathers, JJB, and Bailey.
The vast majority of the great youngsters that have come through the Leeds system were nurtured by Dean Bell who set Leeds' youth structure up, and, IMO, it's no coincidence that Wigan's youth structure turned out top class players after Dean Bell joined them after Leeds.
No dis-respect to what John Bastian has been doing at Leeds, but he's not been as succesful as most people think
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| Glad someone agrees with me.
For the record, the Wolves Squadbuilder is a fantastic initiative and should be supported by everyone as should the other similar schemes at other clubs. The people behind the scenes at Wire do a great job and have done for a great many years, and for a fraction of John Bastians £60k salary (couldn't help the last dig, sorry).
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| Quote: el red "Glad someone agrees with me.
For the record, the Wolves Squadbuilder is a fantastic initiative and should be supported by everyone as should the other similar schemes at other clubs. The people behind the scenes at Wire do a great job and have done for a great many years, and for a fraction of John Bastians £60k salary (couldn't help the last dig, sorry).'"
They haven't agreed with you, quite the opposite. You clearly state it was Stuart Wilkinson who yielded Sinfield, Burrow and McGuire, not Dean Bell.
So to whom do we credit?
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| Quote: SEB "Good night last night with a great top table of guests who all contributed well (the umbrella organisation of all Trusts) and she talked about how the more RL Trusts there are and the more members each one has, the more weight SD has when it does things like talking to Government about support for the Sport.
If anyone has any (geniune) points or queries they want to raise, feel free. Either here, or via one of the Trust Board members. Check out the website too for more info:
Good post. How are the ST evenings advertised other than on here?
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| Quote: Wires71 "Good post. How are the ST evenings advertised other than on here?'"
Pretty sure it has been referred to in the Warrington Guardian (they certainly have in the past), certainly this one via League Express, stadium concourses, club shop and club website. I think there were tannoy announcements at half-time on Sunday. Short of following Wigan and doing an advert before The Bill I don't know what more people could do.
I wonder whether a back page advert on the Guardian might pay off?
Whenever people attend these evenings they are nigh-on always glowing in their feedback yet get people out of their arm-chairs to attend is a thankless task.
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| Quote: Wires71 "Good post. How are the ST evenings advertised other than on here?'"
rlhttps://www.warringtonwolves.org/fans-forum-3549rl
rlhttps://www.squadbuilder.co.uk/newsstory.asp?news_id
rlhttps://www.facebook.com/home.php?tab
The last two programmes (Leeds and Castleford)
By email to everyone on Squadbuilder email list
if you are not on our list and would like to be included pm me with your details
Any other ideas would be welcome
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| Quote: Paul Youane "Pretty sure it has been referred to in the Warrington Guardian (they certainly have in the past), certainly this one via League Express, stadium concourses, club shop and club website. I think there were tannoy announcements at half-time on Sunday. Short of following Wigan and doing an advert before The Bill I don't know what more people could do.
I wonder whether a back page advert on the Guardian might pay off?
Whenever people attend these evenings they are nigh-on always glowing in their feedback yet get people out of their arm-chairs to attend is a thankless task.'"
That's pretty comprehensive marketing Sean (I wasn't making a dig by the way). I don't recall I have seen anything in the concourse nor in the shop (but I go to the shop only once pcm). I did see a "Don't mickey the future way" poster in the Gents at Wilderspool. I think the Guardian idea has merit and it could work as part of a FOC "infomercial" i.e) a nice, interesting, inside piece about the outcomes from the event (editorial) together with dates for the forthcoming (advert).
I must admit I'm a member of both ST and SqB and haven't been to any event (since 2002) which I know is my loss and reflects poorly on me. I always think of a reason not to go. It maybe because I am shy and think that those who do are sort of uber-fans. However I think it would be nice to receive an email with the outcomes following the event (i.e. financials, key announcements, developments, strategy, vision, photos, AGM stuff etc) and that may whet my appetite enough for me to get off my backside and attend.
I'm speculating now - Maybe the marketing is fine and broad, and it's just the way the offering is presented that doesn't make it compelling? Or maybe as you say we are a lethargic lot.
Anyway to all involved in both SqB and ST keep up the good work
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