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| Quote ="Velcro Boots"No i cant see it either. The wages he's on now we just couldn't match. I would like to see him in the primrose and blue for the right price but why would he when you can live the life in Oz on a pocket full'"
His future doesn't look all that certain, news reports today suggesting Manly are interested and Wests would pay some of his salary to get him off their books.
Assuming we are still interested - and I'm not sure I'd be in favour of it - we would presumably have to have the cap space (£200k plus?) to move King off his marquee spot and Bateman on to one. I don't think its the best use of a marquee spot to be honest.
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| Bateman wouldn’t be a good use of cap, rumours abound Vaughan might not be returning (no idea if true) and if so we’ll need to spend big on a prop.
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| Quote ="ratticusfinch"Bateman wouldn’t be a good use of cap, rumours abound Vaughan might not be returning (no idea if true) and if so we’ll need to spend big on a prop.'"
That rumor has been floating about for well over 6 months it could be the same one just doing a full cercle. It was also said that he's gone home already (this was two weeks ago) and is set to not come back..... he was in applejacks farm last week with his family. Even with Vaugh i still think we are light next year in all honesty
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| As has been pointed out we could really do with a strong impact prop like Wigan have with Mago.
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| Quote ="Velcro Boots"That rumor has been floating about for well over 6 months it could be the same one just doing a full cercle. It was also said that he's gone home already (this was two weeks ago) and is set to not come back..... he was in applejacks farm last week with his family. Even with Vaugh i still think we are light next year in all honesty'"
Yeah i put the Vaughan made up rumour in the same bin as Fiztgibbon retiring. Old wives tales simple as, nothing more to it.
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| Quote ="Or thane"Yeah i put the Vaughan made up rumour in the same bin as Fiztgibbon retiring. Old wives tales simple as, nothing more to it.'"
Well they may not be true but don't think they're old wives tales. I don't remember my grandmother saying to me 'don't sit on that cold wall or Lachlan Fitzgibbon will retire' or 'you eat cheese before bedtime and Paul Vaughan will go to Australia in a huff and not return'.
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| Quote ="ratticusfinch"Well they may not be true but don't think they're old wives tales. I don't remember my grandmother saying to me 'don't sit on that cold wall or Lachlan Fitzgibbon will retire' or 'you eat cheese before bedtime and Paul Vaughan will go to Australia in a huff and not return'.'"
Really? My Nan was forever saying this to me.... Strange woman
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| Quote ="Velcro Boots"Is this you speculating or have you had a snippet of information?'"
It’s not speculative.
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| Will wait for Abe Froman.
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| Quote ="Wires71"Will wait for Abe Froman.'"
The last I was told was that Bateman is still being touted around the NRL & SL by Shane Richardson, but his wages have priced any SL clubs out of signing him. He currently earns just over £300k ($600k Au) per season and has 3 years left on his contract. Souths & Manly have shown interest, and Bateman's preference is to stay in Oz (or so his Agent claims).
As other posters have pointed out, he could still come back to Warrington and become a marquee player. Possibly on a season-long loan again. But Richardson would rather he'd be cleared off the books permanently at Wests to free up the cap space to sign someone else on a long term deal.
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| Only reason I’d take Bateman back is if there is uncertainty around how long Fitzgibbon may last. I did say before the Vaughan stories we need a boomer of a prop. Overall I think we are light in the forwards.
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| Happy about that, the whole situation of him not getting in the team then getting an extension was really odd. End of day could just not get my head around what is problem was. There were times we saw a decent player and other times it looked like he just turned up for his wages.
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| Quote ="karetaker"Happy about that, the whole situation of him not getting in the team then getting an extension was really odd. End of day could just not get my head around what is problem was. There were times we saw a decent player and other times it looked like he just turned up for his wages.'"
Why extend him recently and then get rid unless we are getting a transfer fee? Wierd.
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| Quote ="Smiffy27"https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/salford-red-devils-warrington-wolves-30215287
Bullock on his way?'"
Yeah, he's gone. Giving him a 2 year extension in April will always be a mystery. And one for my book when I get the lowdown on what, why etc.
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| I genuinely think his re-signing was a jump the gun moment, just put it down to a brain fart.
So with an estimate, with the 40k dispensation for next year, i'd say we're easily sat on 100k to try to find another Good English prop for next year.
But i suppose it depends on what Burgess wants to do, as he may put his faith in Wood, Okoro, Thomas, Whitehead next year.
I agree with most on here that i think we need a big bopper with some big punch to them, as Yates and Harrison are more defensive props with an ok go farward but good engines.
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| Quote ="Or thane"I genuinely think his re-signing was a jump the gun moment, just put it down to a brain fart.
So with an estimate, with the 40k dispensation for next year, i'd say we're easily sat on 100k to try to find another Good English prop for next year.
But i suppose it depends on what Burgess wants to do, as he may put his faith in Wood, Okoro, Thomas, Whitehead next year.
I agree with most on here that i think we need a big bopper with some big punch to them, as Yates and Harrison are more defensive props with an ok go farward but good engines.
Philbin adds a bit of punch and lots of speed and energy, but would like a BMM, type player that can come on, cause damage and leave the opposition rattled.'"
I think we’re sitting on considerably more cap space than that, even without the new dispensations (assuming they are brought in).
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| Quote ="Wires71"Why extend him recently and then get rid unless we are getting a transfer fee? Wierd.'"
Transfer fee and Salford does not go in the same sentence we likely paid them.
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| There's very little dead wood in our squad now. If a couple of the forwards can kick on (Thomas, Wood, Whitehead) and we keep Vaughan and Fitzgibbon, we should be competing again and it will just come down to one or two games that we know we can win, but may not.
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| Quote ="Or thane"I genuinely think his re-signing was a jump the gun moment, just put it down to a brain fart.
So with an estimate, with the 40k dispensation for next year, i'd say we're easily sat on 100k to try to find another Good English prop for next year.
But i suppose it depends on what Burgess wants to do, as he may put his faith in Wood, Okoro, Thomas, Whitehead next year.
I agree with most on here that i think we need a big bopper with some big punch to them, as Yates and Harrison are more defensive props with an ok go farward but good engines.
Philbin adds a bit of punch and lots of speed and energy, but would like a BMM, type player that can come on, cause damage and leave the opposition rattled.'"
Talking of BMM and forwards in general I wish we could unearth another David Solomona.
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| Quote ="Douglas Black"There's very little dead wood in our squad now. If a couple of the forwards can kick on (Thomas, Wood, Whitehead) and we keep Vaughan and Fitzgibbon, we should be competing again and it will just come down to one or two games that we know we can win, but may not.'"
It's such a shame that neither Bullock nor Dudson fulfilled their potential. I was quite pleased when we signed Dudson, as I thought he had looked like a really solid prop in his time at Catalans, but for whatever reason, he just seemed to waste his time with Wire. As for Bullock, well, that contract extension really is a case for Mulder and Scully.
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| Quote ="The Speculator"It's such a shame that neither Bullock nor Dudson fulfilled their potential. I was quite pleased when we signed Dudson, as I thought he had looked like a really solid prop in his time at Catalans, but for whatever reason, he just seemed to waste his time with Wire. As for Bullock, well, that contract extension really is a case for Mulder and Scully.'"
I never realised Joe Bullock had played 50+ games for Wire. Felt much less.
Gil Duson managed 17.
So that's 5 including Sam Kasiano and Nicholson that have gone in 2024.
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| Quote ="Wires71"I never realised Joe Bullock had played 50+ games for Wire. Felt much less.
Gil Duson managed 17.
So that's 5 including Sam Kasiano and Nicholson that have gone in 2024.'"
Wow, I'd actually forgotten about Kasiano. Yet another to file under 'what might have been'.
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| I thought the first 10 games of the season we had him he was superb, then the whole team just lost form an dropped off a cliff.
It's a shame as i would have loved to see what Burgess could have done with him.
Pure definition of a powerhouse big bopper but with good ball handling as well. Not many of those about now unfortunately.
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| Quote ="Alffi_7"I think we’re sitting on considerably more cap space than that, even without the new dispensations (assuming they are brought in).'"
Oh i thought they were in play from next year, i may have read it wrong and jumped the gun myself
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