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| Quote ="karetaker"There is betting on the match and on Skybet it says it’s on Skysports + . Then again Sky get it wrong a lot.'"
Well i'm not getting up at 6am to check it so i'll just miss it ha ha
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| See Jenna was asking cleary about moving to super league to be near his bird…
Can dream…
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| Quote ="karetaker"There is betting on the match and on Skybet it says it’s on Skysports + . Then again Sky get it wrong a lot.'"
Fiji v PNG is being shown on SKY TV next weekend
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| Quote ="Boss Hog"Fiji v PNG is being shown on SKY TV next weekend'"
Yeah and against the cook islands on 3rd Nov
Watched the Highlights today against Aus, only bits i saw of russell was one really poor tackle where he completely failed to tackle a player who ran directly at him and another player stood shoulder to shoulder with him, and the Aus player just ran completely through them and scored.
And another failed tackle 2 on 1 which led to a try.
Didn't look good but i didn't get to see any of his attacking plays or any of the other defensive work he did, so doesn't tell the whole picture.
But the first failed tackle was shocking.
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| So we've lost Nicholson and Bateman from our back row options and it looks (barring further recruitment) like our first choice options are a very good player with a persistent shoulder issue and a guy with little to no pedigree at the top level in Australia. Assuming Currie keeps the 13 spot (as I think he should) then our back up options are Crowther and Holroyd who I fear may always be too small. I also think we're short of a prop who can give us some real impact from the bench.
I think our backs are fine with some real x factor players, especially if Lindop takes the right centre position in 2025, but we also look short of experience at half back - we may see Ratchford filling in there at times.
For me we need another big experienced second rower and a monster prop to be able to keep our position in the top 4.
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Quote ="Or thane"Yeah and against the cook islands on 3rd Nov
Watched the Highlights today against Aus, only bits i saw of russell was one really poor tackle where he completely failed to tackle a player who ran directly at him and another player stood shoulder to shoulder with him, and the Aus player just ran completely through them and scored.
And another failed tackle 2 on 1 which led to a try.
Didn't look good but i didn't get to see any of his attacking plays or any of the other defensive work he did, so doesn't tell the whole picture.
But the first failed tackle was shocking.'"
https://www.nrl.com/watch/news/png-pms- ... 2-1736928/
Is he #11 at 2:14 and 2:59 ?
Get him on the tackle bags
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Quote ="Or thane"Yeah and against the cook islands on 3rd Nov
Watched the Highlights today against Aus, only bits i saw of russell was one really poor tackle where he completely failed to tackle a player who ran directly at him and another player stood shoulder to shoulder with him, and the Aus player just ran completely through them and scored.
And another failed tackle 2 on 1 which led to a try.
Didn't look good but i didn't get to see any of his attacking plays or any of the other defensive work he did, so doesn't tell the whole picture.
But the first failed tackle was shocking.'"
https://www.nrl.com/watch/news/png-pms- ... 2-1736928/
Is he #11 at 2:14 and 2:59 ?
Get him on the tackle bags
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| Quote ="Wires71"https://www.nrl.com/watch/news/png-pms-xiii-v-australia-pms-xiii2-1736928/
Is he #11 at 2:14 and 2:59 ?
Get him on the tackle bags
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Just watched this myself and wasnt impressed, couldnt tackle a good dinner from that looking.
Anyway i have come to the conclusion, you can have 13 world class players on the field but if the ref gives a dodgy decision its game over. Still annoyed with the semi!
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| Quote ="Howfenwire"
Anyway i have come to the conclusion, you can have 13 world class players on the field but if the ref gives a dodgy decision its game over. Still annoyed with the semi!'"
Got to let it go. If we could have kicked a goal, or concentrated and stopped a barge over from the play the ball. It was in our hands and we blew it, admittedly with no help from the ref.
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| Quote ="Howfenwire"Just watched this myself and wasnt impressed, couldnt tackle a good dinner from that looking.
Anyway i have come to the conclusion, you can have 13 world class players on the field but if the ref gives a dodgy decision its game over. Still annoyed with the semi!'"
Exact mentality that sums up Warrington and why they still haven't won a grand final or even got there since 2018.
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| Wesley Bruines has been released the club decided not to take up the option to extend. Jake Thewlis as had the option on him taken up to extend
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| Is anyone else a bit underwhelmed by our recruitment so far? The 3 signed already are just squad fillers / projects ( no disrespect)
I know we have a lot of good youth coming through such as Hayes, Lindop, Holroyd, Wood, Taylor Wray etc but i still believe we need to strengthen on top. Unless the plan is to just have another experimental / building year whereby we see if these youngsters are good enough. As i expect them to feature more. To me i like the ‘next man up’ mentality and am happy with another year of building but i also don’t want to get left behind because we are sat on lots of free cap space. St Helens found this out the hard way recently by not recruiting and pinning success on the youngsters. Albeit there youngsters haven’t cut the mustard so far where as our look more promising.
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| Supposedly our only signing for next year was going to be yates prior to the nicholson news.
We've already had him, and arguably he isn't enough.
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| If we were trying to sign Cleary that would indicate we have quite a bit of cap space spare.
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| Quote ="Wires71"If we were trying to sign Cleary that would indicate we have quite a bit of cap space spare.'"
Not necessarily loads as only 150k would count on the cap, so not neccessarily shed loads of cap space. Maybe Cleary and 2 more signings really. But with who we have signed i think we still have cap space for another 1 at best.
But yeah i'm a bit underwhelmed, BUT we have the nucleus of the squad set and good enough to get to the playoffs. I think Leyland is a genuine step up from Drinkwater, and Hayes has room to get better also.
Russell i hope just had a dodgy game for PNG, and a full pre-season and some game time will kick him in to gear, as he's a big dude so could add some strike for us.
I would have liked a new big boy prop, but it looks like Bullock will have to find his early 2023 form and fill that spot.
Our new painter and decorator is only a development signing anyway so i'm not concerned with his signing for the first team, He might get a game or 2 on the wing or not.
We might be banking any cap space we have left incase a player becomes available during the season?
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| Quote ="Or thane"Not necessarily loads as only 150k would count on the cap, so not neccessarily shed loads of cap space. Maybe Cleary and 2 more signings really. But with who we have signed i think we still have cap space for another 1 at best.
But yeah i'm a bit underwhelmed, BUT we have the nucleus of the squad set and good enough to get to the playoffs. I think Leyland is a genuine step up from Drinkwater, and Hayes has room to get better also.
Russell i hope just had a dodgy game for PNG, and a full pre-season and some game time will kick him in to gear, as he's a big dude so could add some strike for us.
I would have liked a new big boy prop, but it looks like Bullock will have to find his early 2023 form and fill that spot.
Our new painter and decorator is only a development signing anyway so i'm not concerned with his signing for the first team, He might get a game or 2 on the wing or not.
We might be banking any cap space we have left incase a player becomes available during the season?'"
Only £150k is that a marquee signing? You make fair points but I must admit when I read "we have the nucleus of the squad set and good enough to get to the playoffs" I was underwhelmed. Our target is to win the title surely?
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| Quote ="wirecation"Is anyone else a bit underwhelmed by our recruitment so far? The 3 signed already are just squad fillers / projects ( no disrespect)'"
Generally underwhelmed yes, although as FMC rightly points out, we should remember that Yates is actually a 2025 signing who we managed to get in early. In terms of how our recruitment will be viewed, much rests on how good, or not, Russell turns out to be.
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| If Russell does turn-out to be a dud there is the option of returning Currie to the 2nd row and playing Yates at loose forward.
It`s not something that I am advocating for, but in my opinion Yates is a better 13 than prop and we have quite a few middles to cover his absence there.
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| Quote ="Boss Hog"If Russell does turn-out to be a dud there is the option of returning Currie to the 2nd row and playing Yates at loose forward.
It`s not something that I am advocating for, but in my opinion Yates is a better 13 than prop and we have quite a few middles to cover his absence there.'"
Yates may be a better 13 than a prop but I am not convinced he is a better 13 than Currie.
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| Quote ="Wires71"Yates may be a better 13 than a prop but I am not convinced he is a better 13 than Currie.'"
Yes, I agree with you, but if Russell doesn`t make the grade, it`s an option to move Yates to 13.
But hopefully Burgess knows what he is doing & Russell surprises us all by taking the chance that he has been given.
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| Quote ="Wires71"Only £150k is that a marquee signing? You make fair points but I must admit when I read "we have the nucleus of the squad set and good enough to get to the playoffs" I was underwhelmed. Our target is to win the title surely?'"
Yeah he'd have to be a marquee player
What i ment is we already have a squad in place to get us there, so i'm not underwhelmed with the current squad. Dan Russell potentially has the size and experience to outshine Nicholson under the influence of Burgess, so does Leyland, and if we get Bullock back to his best, we're actually stronger than this year
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| Quote ="Or thane"Yeah he'd have to be a marquee player
What i ment is we already have a squad in place to get us there, so i'm not underwhelmed with the current squad. Dan Russell potentially has the size and experience to outshine Nicholson under the influence of Burgess, so does Leyland, and if we get Bullock back to his best, we're actually stronger than this year
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There is a hard hitting decent prop inside Bullock somewhere. But at 31 and more clubs than Tiger Woods, he needs to find it soon.
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| Currie wasn't as good as people made out this year, he was better than previous currie which was a nice surprise but i'd say he was ineffective in a lot more
I reckon you probably get about the same in terms of link play from yates, but with better defence and hit ups. plus two regular props
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| infact, its been quite surprising that the more critical posters on here have been so easy on him for parts of this season
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| Interesting article in the [urlhttps://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/sport/24646971.warrington-wolves-hardest-working-player-2024/[/url ranking our players by the NRL VB Hard Earned Index.
Warrington Wolves ‘Hard Earned’ leaderboard 2024
Luke Yates – 1,324 (inc time at Hudds)
Ben Currie – 1,212
George Williams – 1,151
Matt Dufty – 1,012
Paul Vaughan – 1,001
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"infact, its been quite surprising that the more critical posters on here have been so easy on him for parts of this season'"
My guess is that we've had lots less posters & less critical posts this season. Probably to do with winning more games.
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