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Quote: Or thane "I'd drop Rhys and play Ratchford there. I don't get the whole hype with evans, he never does anything spectacular and doesn't do anything more then what Atkins does. But everyone bags Atkins and never says anything bad about Rhys? So either way drop Evans or Atkins and throw Ratchford in the centres for me.'"


I agree, I think Rhys Evans has a lot to prove and I don't think he was very good defensively on Thursday. I didn't see a lot wrong with ratchfords defence Thursday though. For me Atkins is better than evans, I think the problem with Atkins is we have seen him play so much better in the past, notably when he was partnered with King, maybe he needs a bit of a leader next to him to be at his best?

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Evans or Atkins to be replaced by Ratch, both of them are poor, ideally to partner Penny, getting to ball to the pace outside gives the opposition plenty to think about rather than plundering up the middle. Gidley if fit simply has to partner Sandow, Dwyer is easily good enough to back up Clark and when Clark is fit we need Dwyer on the bench to prevent burnout.

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Quote: Asgardian13 "When he got the ball in some space in the Leigh friendly Evans showed just what he can do in attack. Defensively he is way ahead of Atkins. Atkins/Ratchford partnership at centre looks like a revolving door for the big Catalan side to me.'"


Is that potentially his level then? Did well against a championship side? Just playing devils advocate.....

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Quote: CW8 "I agree, I think Rhys Evans has a lot to prove and I don't think he was very good defensively on Thursday. I didn't see a lot wrong with ratchfords defence Thursday though. For me Atkins is better than evans, I think the problem with Atkins is we have seen him play so much better in the past, notably when he was partnered with King, maybe he needs a bit of a leader next to him to be at his best?'"


Ratchford was awful for the Salford try when they dove over from AHB. Completely messed up.

I don't think he has earned a shirt yet.

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Hill was awful letting Sau saunter past him for their first too....

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Quote: Alffi_7 "Hill was awful letting Sau saunter past him for their first too....'"


Back using footwork to stand up a prop.

Ratchford has a history of switching off in defence at crucial times, he needs to focus. He is admittedly a lot better than he used to be though.

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Stats for the Salford game was Ratchford missed 0 tackles
www.rugby-league.com/superleague ... port/12218
Stats for the Salford game was Ratchford missed 0 tackles
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Quote: Alffi_7 "Hill was awful letting Sau saunter past him for their first too....'"
Westerman was blatantly at fault for their first

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Great thread chaps. Anyone else we haven't blamed yet?
IMO the last 21 mins v Salford is the arguably the best slice of rugby Wire have played this season and possibly the last two prior, and the team contained every player that is getting slated on this thread.
Credit where due, more of the same please Wire.

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I think Tom lineham was very quiet lol

Joking aside at least we are discussing decent player combinations. We have strength in depth this year rather than debating no options and poor performances, we should not forget that fact, be positive we have options. Most people have been posting positive constructive criticism, not slating players.

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Quote: rubber duckie "Great thread chaps. Anyone else we haven't blamed yet?
IMO the last 21 mins v Salford is the arguably the best slice of rugby Wire have played this season and possibly the last two prior, and the team contained every player that is getting slated on this thread.
Credit where due, more of the same please Wire.'"
More of the same? Admitedly it was a great comeback, but the game doesn't last 21 minutes. The first half was the worst we have defended since smith took over(discounting the first game at london). Salford werent splitting us open with superb rugby as they were against saints. They were just falling over our line with alarming ease

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Quote: Moe syslak "Westerman was blatantly at fault for their first'"


He ran through the middle of them both, both equally culpable, awful attempt from both of them.

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Quote: LOngbarn Wire "Is that potentially his level then? Did well against a championship side? Just playing devils advocate.....'"

Devil's advocate or not, Evan now is a better centre than Atkins now.

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39 tackles suggests he was pretty switched on in defence, I appreciate there are lies, damned lies and statistics...

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