Atkins was average, like quite a few players, only one of two good ones, e.g. Hill.

Higham was bad.

Carvell was very very BAD tonight.

So, we had a couple of ok players, 13 average, and two poor players, with one decent player going off, and three very influential players in the stand - and we lost by 8, away at the champions. The scenario 4 years ago would of been a 50 point drubbing.....

I don't really see why Watkins in particular seems to have been singled out in comparrison to Atkins. Both are quality centres. I would be more wondering why wellham is in there instead of Atkins, who is miles behind Atkins for me. Watkins is a cracking prospect and deserves to be in there along with atkins

Agreed... watkins is quality..... i dont think anyone is making a direct accusation at watkins..... its obvious there has been a fall out between atkins and mcnamara... first sign of a coach out of his depth.

I suppose it's just because we were playing each other this week that all the media seemed to highlight Watkins and Atkins and neglected others who are worse than both the above. More me at this time they should be the centres for England. I can see the point in including hardaker as I think he will have a big future in the game, and for me both hardaker and bridge would be in front of wellham

Oh and cudjoe is doing well at the moment. Again infront of wellham

no doubt about that.

Ryan had his worst game for Warrington tonight. I don't know why, maybe he was trying too hard to prove whoever wrong.

What I do know is that the entire Leeds three-quarter line was hyped out of all proportion by the Sky commentary team tonight. Hardaker appears to be Eddie's new sock, despite the fact he seems to be no more than a smaller version of Kirk Yeaman.

Don't know about that. Not his best but not his worst.



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Yeah that was good, you did that thing where you broke the post down - you'd be loved on the VT.

Definitely. I mean listen to Eddie on the commentary saying to 'look out in the future' (or something along those lines) for that Liam Hood... why Eddie, cus he happened to be in the right place to ground the ball when Myler cocked up? Hardly the most skilled of tries was it! Give me a break



Don't get me started on Stevo and his new nickname for Burrow which he used at EVERY opportunity. End of a bell.

Not that great a night for Atkins, I think Watkins had the better of him. I'd still like to see Atkins dominate the bigger teams more, I know he has had a couple of good games against the better teams but he does tend to go missing in them.

That Liam Hood has been given a try that was very short last week and that sitter from Myler's cock up this week.

Then there was the several errors from him for the 10 mins or so he was on the pitch

I wouldn't worry