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| Quote: mp 1965 "Best hit was Prescotts smashing Morley with a legal hit and Super Moz dropping the ball.'"
Same Prescott who shat himself when Westwood went to tackle him.
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| It has been funny watching it back. In the first minute when Morley lost the ball in a tackle involving Fielden, Fielden was dishing out quite a bit of sledging to Moz. I think that was the worst thing he could have done. If he had said "sorry Mozza, are you ok fella" they might have gone a bit easier on him. Then again maybe not. When I look at his face after that tackle and then look at him later in the game when spilling a lot of ball there is a marked difference, strange really because I don't know what happened to him and I would guess neither does he!
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| Quote: magic piano "Fielden in recent years has failed to make his mark on games in the way he did when at Bradford - I put this down to 2 things; in Bradford he was a part of one of the most formidable prop quartets & indeed packs SL has seen, he was used alongside McDermott, Vagana & Anderson as the free running prop and anyone who saw his try at the JJB v Australia in 04 will testify to his class in that position at the time - the move to Wigan was a bizarre one and one which has exposed he is not cut out for a pack leader (no shame in that, not all are, Paul Wood being another) and he goes missing for long periods in matches when the rest of his pack are looking to him to inspire as Morley, Graham or Peacock are able to. The second reason is that since Willie Mason laid him out he has lost his bottle for the fight with the big boys - he's quite happy to bully the half-backs but is scared of facing another punch like the one Mason caught him with...
Fielden's biggest problem is that he bottled out of the move to Aus in favour of the JJB. He will never be able to back up the reputation he had in the mid 2000's as the world's best forward as he didn't prove his worth on the biggest stage as Morley did, as Burgess is doing and as Graham surely will.'"
Agree with all that and just to add a point i think all the 80 min
games he played at Bradford are now catching up with him,not
many get the better of Morley,Peacock or Graham but i think we
have a new contender in the making ,because Ben Harrisons hit
on Fielden was the one he felt the most(think he went off soon
after) if young Ben keeps improving at the current rate he could
be one of the best ever enforcers.
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| Quote: A.C.WIRE "Agree with all that and just to add a point i think all the 80 min
games he played at Bradford are now catching up with him,not
many get the better of Morley,Peacock or Graham but i think we
have a new contender in the making ,because Ben Harrisons hit
on Fielden was the one he felt the most(think he went off soon
after) if young Ben keeps improving at the current rate he could
be one of the best ever enforcers.'"
And it wont be long before the Aussies come calling.
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| Quote: canonrebel "And it wont be long before the Aussies come calling.'"
only if it involves a swap for Big Sam
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| Quote: Padge2k7 "Best hit of the game, has everyone forgot about Louis hit on Hanson?? On our own line ...'"
Well about 12m out when Hansen had literally just caught it is pretty impressive.
Has he ever considered 100m? With that acceleration he could give Bolt a go over 20...
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| Quote: Bovrick "Well about 12m out when Hansen had literally just caught it is pretty impressive.
Has he ever considered 100m? With that acceleration he could give Bolt a go over 20...
Look at it again with both eyes open it was good read of the play backed up with enthusiasm, determination and commitment.
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| Some of the posts on here about Fielden being a bottler are ridiculous. At the end of the 2006 season his Mum got diagnosed with cancer and died a month later. Straight after that he had to fly out to the GB tour, leaving his family to go and play Test RL. That was the tour where Willie Mason took a cheap punch at him off the ball. 99% of the people on these messageboards would have pulled out of that tour if they had lost their Mum suddenly, and with hindsight maybe Fielden should have but one thing he isn't is a bottler.
As for being a bottler because he signed for Wigan rather than testing himself in the NRL....what do you reckon of Tony Smith as a coach, he won two Grand Finals with Leeds and his brother is one of the most high profile coaches in Australia, he would have been able to get an NRL job just like Matthew Elliot, Shaun McRae and Daniel Anderson did, but he chose to come to Warrington. Does that mark him out as a bottler? Will he always be a bottler unless he quits us and takes an NRL job to prove he's good?
Fielden has proved himself at the highest level, he took on the Aussies in Ashes series in 2001 and 2003 and in the Tri Nations 2004 and was one of the best forwards in the series every time, he's been there and done it against the best so he didn't need to go to the NRL to prove himself. Jamie Peacock hasn't played in the NRL either, neither did Farrell or Scully but I would put them all more or less in the calibre of Adrian Morley as greats of the game.
Fair enough his career went on a downward spiral after 2006, as has been pointed out above he is probably paying the price for when he was playing 70-80 minutes taking some massive punishment as a young player at Bradford. Unlike Morley, Graham and Sam Burgess at the same age, Fielden's early days were in a Bradford team which relied on juggernaut forwards acting like battering rams to steamroller the opposition, you had experienced old pros lke Anderson, Jo Vagana and Brian McDermott coming on and off the interchange and then you had the young lad doing the same virtually all game. Back in 1999 when Mal Reilly released his book he said he feared for the future of young forwards like Stuart Fielden and Martin Lang because of the way they played the game....Martin Lang retired through injury about the time that Fielden started to go downhill, I think there was something in what Reilly had to say.
Fielden has got three Grand Final rings, two Challenge Cups and two World Club Challenge medals, a stack of GB caps and the respect of every forward in the game. His career has slipped from its early heights but he's still a first teamer in the team that's top of Super League so if that's how far he's fallen then he's not had a bad career.
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| Quote: sally cinnamon "Some of the posts on here about Fielden being a bottler are ridiculous. At the end of the 2006 season his Mum got diagnosed with cancer and died a month later. Straight after that he had to fly out to the GB tour, leaving his family to go and play Test RL. That was the tour where Willie Mason took a cheap punch at him off the ball. 99% of the people on these messageboards would have pulled out of that tour if they had lost their Mum suddenly, and with hindsight maybe Fielden should have but one thing he isn't is a bottler.
As for being a bottler because he signed for Wigan rather than testing himself in the NRL....what do you reckon of Tony Smith as a coach, he won two Grand Finals with Leeds and his brother is one of the most high profile coaches in Australia, he would have been able to get an NRL job just like Matthew Elliot, Shaun McRae and Daniel Anderson did, but he chose to come to Warrington. Does that mark him out as a bottler? Will he always be a bottler unless he quits us and takes an NRL job to prove he's good?
Fielden has proved himself at the highest level, he took on the Aussies in Ashes series in 2001 and 2003 and in the Tri Nations 2004 and was one of the best forwards in the series every time, he's been there and done it against the best so he didn't need to go to the NRL to prove himself. Jamie Peacock hasn't played in the NRL either, neither did Farrell or Scully but I would put them all more or less in the calibre of Adrian Morley as greats of the game.
Fair enough his career went on a downward spiral after 2006, as has been pointed out above he is probably paying the price for when he was playing 70-80 minutes taking some massive punishment as a young player at Bradford. Unlike Morley, Graham and Sam Burgess at the same age, Fielden's early days were in a Bradford team which relied on juggernaut forwards acting like battering rams to steamroller the opposition, you had experienced old pros lke Anderson, Jo Vagana and Brian McDermott coming on and off the interchange and then you had the young lad doing the same virtually all game. Back in 1999 when Mal Reilly released his book he said he feared for the future of young forwards like Stuart Fielden and Martin Lang because of the way they played the game....Martin Lang retired through injury about the time that Fielden started to go downhill, I think there was something in what Reilly had to say.
Fielden has got three Grand Final rings, two Challenge Cups and two World Club Challenge medals, a stack of GB caps and the respect of every forward in the game. His career has slipped from its early heights but he's still a first teamer in the team that's top of Super League so if that's how far he's fallen then he's not had a bad career.'"
Best post on any board in a long time.
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| Great post someone talking sense.
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| Quote: sally cinnamon "Some of the posts on here about Fielden being a bottler are ridiculous. At the end of the 2006 season his Mum got diagnosed with cancer and died a month later. Straight after that he had to fly out to the GB tour, leaving his family to go and play Test RL. That was the tour where Willie Mason took a cheap punch at him off the ball. 99% of the people on these messageboards would have pulled out of that tour if they had lost their Mum suddenly, and with hindsight maybe Fielden should have but one thing he isn't is a bottler.
As for being a bottler because he signed for Wigan rather than testing himself in the NRL....what do you reckon of Tony Smith as a coach, he won two Grand Finals with Leeds and his brother is one of the most high profile coaches in Australia, he would have been able to get an NRL job just like Matthew Elliot, Shaun McRae and Daniel Anderson did, but he chose to come to Warrington. Does that mark him out as a bottler? Will he always be a bottler unless he quits us and takes an NRL job to prove he's good?
Fielden has proved himself at the highest level, he took on the Aussies in Ashes series in 2001 and 2003 and in the Tri Nations 2004 and was one of the best forwards in the series every time, he's been there and done it against the best so he didn't need to go to the NRL to prove himself. Jamie Peacock hasn't played in the NRL either, neither did Farrell or Scully but I would put them all more or less in the calibre of Adrian Morley as greats of the game.
Fair enough his career went on a downward spiral after 2006, as has been pointed out above he is probably paying the price for when he was playing 70-80 minutes taking some massive punishment as a young player at Bradford. Unlike Morley, Graham and Sam Burgess at the same age, Fielden's early days were in a Bradford team which relied on juggernaut forwards acting like battering rams to steamroller the opposition, you had experienced old pros lke Anderson, Jo Vagana and Brian McDermott coming on and off the interchange and then you had the young lad doing the same virtually all game. Back in 1999 when Mal Reilly released his book he said he feared for the future of young forwards like Stuart Fielden and Martin Lang because of the way they played the game....Martin Lang retired through injury about the time that Fielden started to go downhill, I think there was something in what Reilly had to say.
Fielden has got three Grand Final rings, two Challenge Cups and two World Club Challenge medals, a stack of GB caps and the respect of every forward in the game. His career has slipped from its early heights but he's still a first teamer in the team that's top of Super League so if that's how far he's fallen then he's not had a bad career.'"
Excellent Post That,,,,
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| Can we add Macguire to the list please.
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| Quote: Mark "Can we add Macguire to the list please.'"
Haha brill, as soon as I seen Fielden get smashed by ickle Danny Maguire the first thing I thought was "there's another or the list"
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| Quote: sally cinnamon "Some of the posts on here about Fielden being a bottler are ridiculous. At the end of the 2006 season his Mum got diagnosed with cancer and died a month later. Straight after that he had to fly out to the GB tour, leaving his family to go and play Test RL. That was the tour where Willie Mason took a cheap punch at him off the ball. 99% of the people on these messageboards would have pulled out of that tour if they had lost their Mum suddenly, and with hindsight maybe Fielden should have but one thing he isn't is a bottler.
As for being a bottler because he signed for Wigan rather than testing himself in the NRL....what do you reckon of Tony Smith as a coach, he won two Grand Finals with Leeds and his brother is one of the most high profile coaches in Australia, he would have been able to get an NRL job just like Matthew Elliot, Shaun McRae and Daniel Anderson did, but he chose to come to Warrington. Does that mark him out as a bottler? Will he always be a bottler unless he quits us and takes an NRL job to prove he's good?
Fielden has proved himself at the highest level, he took on the Aussies in Ashes series in 2001 and 2003 and in the Tri Nations 2004 and was one of the best forwards in the series every time, he's been there and done it against the best so he didn't need to go to the NRL to prove himself. Jamie Peacock hasn't played in the NRL either, neither did Farrell or Scully but I would put them all more or less in the calibre of Adrian Morley as greats of the game.
Fair enough his career went on a downward spiral after 2006, as has been pointed out above he is probably paying the price for when he was playing 70-80 minutes taking some massive punishment as a young player at Bradford. Unlike Morley, Graham and Sam Burgess at the same age, Fielden's early days were in a Bradford team which relied on juggernaut forwards acting like battering rams to steamroller the opposition, you had experienced old pros lke Anderson, Jo Vagana and Brian McDermott coming on and off the interchange and then you had the young lad doing the same virtually all game. Back in 1999 when Mal Reilly released his book he said he feared for the future of young forwards like Stuart Fielden and Martin Lang because of the way they played the game....Martin Lang retired through injury about the time that Fielden started to go downhill, I think there was something in what Reilly had to say.
Fielden has got three Grand Final rings, two Challenge Cups and two World Club Challenge medals, a stack of GB caps and the respect of every forward in the game. His career has slipped from its early heights but he's still a first teamer in the team that's top of Super League so if that's how far he's fallen then he's not had a bad career.'"
Top draw post.
Fielden has had a fantastic career and whilst he's not quite the player he was he's still a very good prop forward. He's had a superb season for us this year and was excellent again last night. He's played a huge part in our season and we'd all be gutted to see him leave if he does at the end of this season.
I always make the point about his mother when people criticise his loss of form. Alot of people point to the Mason incident but it was a tough time for him. I read that after the Mason incident he was sat in the changing rooms asking how his mother was when she'd actually died a few weeks previous. That is heartbreaking and no wonder rugby seemed to take a backseat for him for a while. That sad incident along with the Mason thing and his high profile move to Wigan making him a target added up to a couple of tough years for him but he's bounced back over the past 18 months or so and whilst he'll never be back to the old rampaging Fielden he's playing some top class rugby league.
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