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Quote: Rob Wire "Hamilton for me deserves nothing, i would have been one of the first to congratulate him if he had won like he should have done in the best car in the championship, instead he almost somehow managed to snatch defeat out of the jaws of a win. Take him out of the best car in F1 and how good is he really ? He had to rely on some massive luck to get this title, he almost blew it again like last year in the best car in F1.

Massa for me is the best driver in the championship, put Massa in the McLaren of this year and he would have won the tilte and probably quite easily. He only had to finish 5th and he almost blew that.'"


Just like rikonnen letting massa past in last race ...hmm you speak utter rubbish

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Quote: saintc "because he was on the wrong tyres which is why his last lap was done in over 1 minute 40. Hamiltons team chose the safe option and went for the wet tyres which paid dividends in the end, albeit only just.'"
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do they not speak to you on your board or what saintc.
dont be offended i think your ace..

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Quote: Rob Wire "Hamilton for me deserves nothing, i would have been one of the first to congratulate him if he had won like he should have done in the best car in the championship, instead he almost somehow managed to snatch defeat out of the jaws of a win. Take him out of the best car in F1 and how good is he really ? He had to rely on some massive luck to get this title, he almost blew it again like last year in the best car in F1.

Massa for me is the best driver in the championship, put Massa in the McLaren of this year and he would have won the tilte and probably quite easily. He only had to finish 5th and he almost blew that.'"


What utter balls Rob. He finished with more points than Massa over the course of a season. Your opinion on how Massa would have gotten on in a McLaren car is pure guesswork.

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Quote: Ian [77] ""What utter balls Rob. He finished with more points than Massa over the course of a season. Your opinion on how Massa would have gotten on in a McLaren car is pure guesswork.'"


and he had points taken off and massa didnt

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Well done Lewis fully deserved, its not about this one race its a whole season.

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I guess that Glock chap can be assured of a nice fat cheque, or even a future contract with McLaren once the dust has settled??... icon_wink.gif icon_wink.gif

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Great ending and thoroughly deserved for Lewis, The FIA have been gifting Massa all season and no way did he deserve to win.

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Quote: RedLionMike "With a bird like Nicole
The one who waited until the camera was on her and then looked nervous/happy/jumping about?

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Quote: Ian [77] ""What utter balls Rob. He finished with more points than Massa over the course of a season. Your opinion on how Massa would have gotten on in a McLaren car is pure guesswork.'"


Oh right, thanks for pointing out the above. I won`t bother going into the technical stuff then as to what team has the better chassis, which car has the better straight line speed and which car is suited to the majority of tracks in F1, also which car has been dominating qualifying and pole position etc. Motor sport is probably my first sport as i`m into rallying and F1 but you will know more than me as usual so i will stop talking utter balls again.

If Glock doesn`t slow down suddenly then Lewis Hamilton has blown it for the 2nd successive year in a row, i`m well happy we have a british world champion but i`m sure even Ron Dennis will quietly say to himself that Lewis Hamilton almost blew it again. Hamilton`s fate was out of his own hands today and that shouldn`t have been the case with the machinery and support thats been given to him, oops here i go again talking utter balls.

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Quote: Rob Wire "Oh right, thanks for pointing out the above. I won`t bother going into the technical stuff then as to what team has the better chassis, which car has the better straight line speed and which car is suited to the majority of tracks in F1, also which car has been dominating qualifying and pole position etc. Motor sport is probably my first sport as i`m into rallying and F1 but you will know more than me as usual so i will stop talking utter balls again.

If Glock doesn`t slow down suddenly then Lewis Hamilton has blown it for the 2nd successive year in a row, i`m well happy we have a british world champion but i`m sure even Ron Dennis will quietly say to himself that Lewis Hamilton almost blew it again. Hamilton`s fate was out of his own hands today and that shouldn`t have been the case with the machinery and support thats been given to him, oops here i go again talking utter balls.'"


What on earth are you going on about now? All I said was

Hamilton deserved to win the World Championship; and
Your opinion on whether Massa would have won in a McLaren is a guess.

I couldn't give a shiny one what your 'first sport is'. You claimed that the youngest ever Formula 1 world champion, who very nearly won it in his debut year, who got more points than anyone else, who worked since he was a kid to lift that title, didn't deserve it. That is ridiculous Rob and you're making yourself look a complete fool by trying to argue otherwise.

Massa DIDN'T race in a McLaren. The technical info is irrelevant, unless you have a time machine, it's guess work.

You are talking utter balls and you know it. And no one gives a shiny one what your first sport is.

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Quote: Rob Wire "

If Glock doesn`t slow down suddenly then Lewis Hamilton has blown it for the 2nd successive year in a row, .'"


Glock didnt just slow down to let Hamilton pass him. He was far slower on the last lap because he had dry tyres and it was pi$$ing down.

The other thing you are conveniently forgetting is that Hamilton was very comfortable in 4th until the tactical decision to change tyres was made. This ended up putting pressure on him but worked out in the end otherwise Hamilton could have found himself in Glocks position of struggling on the last lap and a half.

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I'm disgusted that people who appreciate such a fine sport as RL, watch the durge that is F1.

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Quote: Rob Wire "Oh right, thanks for pointing out the above. I won`t bother going into the technical stuff then as to what team has the better chassis, which car has the better straight line speed and which car is suited to the majority of tracks in F1, also which car has been dominating qualifying and pole position etc. Motor sport is probably my first sport as i`m into rallying and F1 but you will know more than me as usual so i will stop talking utter balls again.

If Glock doesn`t slow down suddenly then Lewis Hamilton has blown it for the 2nd successive year in a row, i`m well happy we have a british world champion but i`m sure even Ron Dennis will quietly say to himself that Lewis Hamilton almost blew it again. Hamilton`s fate was out of his own hands today and that shouldn`t have been the case with the machinery and support thats been given to him, oops here i go again talking utter balls.'"


If you know about F1 then you will know how much time Glock lost in the final lap due to him being on dry tyres when it was ing down. he lost 18 seconds on dry tyres, nothing to do with he let Hamilton through. Glocks team chose the wrong option. If it had not rained again, Hamilton would have cruised home. Hamilton did nearly blow it, god knows how much pressure he was under to bring that home today but he did it in the end.

Well done Lewis icon_biggrin.gif icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: Ian [77] ""

Massa DIDN'T race in a McLaren. '"


I think this is what most non-fans don't get about F1.....

Look, Hamilton may be a good driver, but ultimately the fact he is in the best car is the major factor, so why all the glory for Swiss Lewis? (or whoever happens to win).

Let's be honest, however good Swiss Lewis is, if me and him had a race, and he was in a Ford Fiesta, and I was in a Porsche, I reckon I'd whoop his candyass, which would make me World Champ??.. icon_lol.gif

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