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| Been thinking about this and, in particular, the repeated references to a Satae type prop being required. That may well be true, but I'm not sure it's the style of prop that Powell goes for. Sizewise maybe yes, but Millington, Massey, even Liam Watts are not that barnstorming style. Junior Moors perhaps the exception to prove the rule. I think he'll be after Luke Thompson.
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| It's not about stature it's about the ability to make yardage but also bust a tackle, get quick PTB and put in the occasional offload. Those things draw in more defenders and create a bit more space.
A small pack is fine so long as they tick the performance indicators. Ours doesn't.
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| Sorry I thought this thread was about Hughes.
Carry on.
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| Quote rubber duckie="rubber duckie"Sorry I thought this thread was about Hughes.
Carry on.'"
The thread is entitled new prop, not Hughes. Not a fan of Hughes at all but not going to dig him out when problem is far deeper and dies not Lay at Hughes door.
On the subject point, fair to say we are all desperate for a new prop it’s genuinely Incredible that every warrington fan was crying out for it but those professionals tasked with the responsibility didn’t.
Worrying !!
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| Quote CW8="CW8"It's not about stature it's about the ability to make yardage but also bust a tackle, get quick PTB and put in the occasional offload. Those things draw in more defenders and create a bit more space.
A small pack is fine so long as they tick the performance indicators. Ours doesn't.'"
Sounds like Chris Hill? Why did we let him go or did he want to leave?
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| Currie, Holmes, Hughes, Davis, Magoulias, J Clark, Philbin, Harrison, Butler
Imagine we replaced just replaced some of those with high-quality big men. With salary cap considerations, you could probably get rid of four of them to bring in two well-paid high-quality props when you consider we have some young talented back-rowers.
It has been a complete failure of squad management and recruitment. There's no hindsight either. Us simple-minded fans have been banging on about this for years now.
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| Quote Big Dave 3="Big Dave 3"Quote Big Dave 3="CW8"It's not about stature it's about the ability to make yardage but also bust a tackle, get quick PTB and put in the occasional offload. Those things draw in more defenders and create a bit more space.
A small pack is fine so long as they tick the performance indicators. Ours doesn't.'"
Sounds like Chris Hill? Why did we let him go or did he want to leave?'"
Exactly, draw in defenders & get the ball out ,but we also need to instil an attitude throughout the team of the importance of supporting any break whether forward or back.
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| I'll ask the question again, is this the chris Hill that the majority of warrington fans were slagging off for being a penalty machine for the past 4 seasons?
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| Quote Lord Tony Smith="Lord Tony Smith"Mikołaj Olędzki would be nice.'"
Most overrated prop in the game.
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| Quote Fantastic Mr Cat="Fantastic Mr Cat"I'll ask the question again, is this the chris Hill that the majority of warrington fans were slagging off for being a penalty machine for the past 4 seasons?'"
In fairness he was better when the captaincy was removed.
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| Just on what I think was a positive, butler wasn't too bad at the weekend, I dont recall anything horrid happening down to him, he ran the ball in pretty strong. Only got a 20 min price style cameo
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| Quote Fantastic Mr Cat="Fantastic Mr Cat"Just on what I think was a positive, butler wasn't too bad at the weekend, I dont recall anything horrid happening down to him, he ran the ball in pretty strong. Only got a 20 min price style cameo'"
He'll definately improve with more game time, he needs to stamp his mark and kick on. I was excited when we signed him and i hope he can finally hit top form.
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| For a minute, with the resurrection of this thread, I thought we’d signed one.
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| Quote rubber duckie="rubber duckie"For a minute, with the resurrection of this thread, I thought we’d signed one.'"
You or I have more chance of winning the 2022 Epsom Derby riding a unicorn, than seeing a new prop signed for this season.
Who would you like to see come in for 2023?
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| Quote MorePlaymakersNeeded="MorePlaymakersNeeded"You or I have more chance of winning the 2022 Epsom Derby riding a unicorn, than seeing a new prop signed for this season.
Who would you like to see come in for 2023?'"
Watts or Sam Casi would be good. Add so go forward and weight.
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| I've always liked Watts, but I'd want the starting prop version rather than the bench option one, Campbell-Gillard would be on my list.
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| Anyone who believes Rob Buttler is going to become the prop we so desperately need, is in cloud cuckoo land.
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| Quote vastman="vastman"Most overrated prop in the game.'"
Maybe, but he’d walk into our pack and improve it immensely at the minute.
Mind you Michael Barrymore would.
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| If we can't sign a quality prop then let's do the next best thing and poach whichever of Hulls scouts keeps finding their South Sea islanders
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| Quote Mr Snoodle="Mr Snoodle"If we can't sign a quality prop then let's do the next best thing and poach whichever of Hulls scouts keeps finding their South Sea islanders'"
I bet Hull must be sick of winning all those grand finals with the magnificent props they always sign.
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| Quote MorePlaymakersNeeded="MorePlaymakersNeeded"
Who would you like to see come in for 2023?'"
I'd Throw some money at Sio Siua Taukeiaho, i swear this is the last year contracted with the Roosters. He'd do very nicely for me, realistically being able to sign him is the thing though. Also reported he's off to Catalans though next year but still not confirmed. We must for some reason be very unappealing for a Prop as we constantly fail to sign any. The year we made the utter panic buy of Leilani Latu, we were knocked back by a never named Prop, Zane Tetavano, Sam Lisone and another Prop who i can't remember the name of.
And it's like this year after year after year.
Powell clearly knows where we need to strengthen which he will do with more free salary cap.
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| I'm sure there is a prop , or maybe two props , waiting for a couple of lucrative wind down seasons at a club with more money than sense. Our scouts will be out there now offering all sorts of fringe benefits to fetch over the next butt of forum criticism.
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| Just a quick reminder that we signed a highly rated prop, but for reasons that can’t be laid at KF’s, Powells’ or anyone else at the clubs door, he isn’t available.
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| Indeed, I'm not sure what the latest update is on James Harrision, following his ACL injury in Aug 21, but if recovery has been progressing as expected, we might, hopefully, expect to see him in the next couple of months (with Minikin a few weeks later perhaps).
However - we went into the season knowing full well Harrison was going to be missing for a while - and so far, we haven't seen other players step up to fill an obvious gap.
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| Yeah it'll be good to see him in action for us, to be fair i keep forgetting we signed Harrison. Minikin did his ACL round about the same time and he was starting to run on it last month so i don't think Harrison is too far behind/in front. So realistically May/June, with Fitness added maybe July?
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