Second in the table to Wigan on points difference as against ninth, I bet you wish your team were bang average, you could always go for Watson at Salford, it's not like your strangers when it comes to shopping there.

At the minute the Wire are worse than bang average, therefore apart from HKR we are up against it in every game.

If there are issues between players and coach then the club as a whole is up against it. I can't see this being a season of any sort of joy if there is unrest in the camp.

Do they back the coach or do they back the players?

*grabs popcorn*

Can you elaborate?

To be fair to Austin he doesn't hide. He gets clattered every game and played a lot of last season in pain but he still wants the ball and tries to attack the line. There's only so much he can do with a pack in front of him as crap as ours is.

Good idea.... Cullen with Lowes as his assistant... it might just work!

It will be like watching a 'thriller' whilst hiding behind the sofa. A nerve jangling affair. If Cas come out like a house on fire and place early points heaven knows what might result. Hopefully the boys come out on a mission. A mission to win.

Whether Cas is the end for Price or not, it's already 5 months too late so I have little confidence in our leadership team.

If we win it will buy Price another 3 months and the directors can bury their head once more.

Hill for me has to go with Price no matter what too.

During last weeks thrashing I saw nothing from him behind the sticks. Imagine that was O'Laughlin, Wellens or even Sinfield or Shenton? they'd be going mad.

I saw nothing captain esque from him, when we're that far behind, on our next set he should be saying "gimme that F***ing ball and running over the top of someone which we all know he is well capable of. Instead we got nothing. We've got the best out of him and had some great years but his career is coming to a natural end and we shouldn't be holding onto someone because of fond memories.

At the very least he should have the armband taken from him.

Price Sacking Sweepstakes:

Who will make the major error that will cost SP his job.
If there is no winner by Monday, it’ll be carried over to the next game. The single error will be deciding factor.

Player (Poster) formline info odds

Ratchford (Morleys D) Falls often, knock on fumbles off his own knees a lot but by and large a solid performer 100/1

Lineham () brain farts and lots of them, likes a banter dig at Saints fans 5/1

King () Wan King speciality in the air...with the ball 25/1

Brand (St Helens Wolf) playing centre and is too small 8/1

Austin (longbarn wire) Austin throws out his toys at SP 25/1

Widdop (superblue) playing 7 and ought to be FB 25/1

Hill (morriseyisawire) yellow/red card from a headshot specialist 3/1f

Clark D () rank outsider with no chance of falling foul don’t waste your money 5000/1

Cooper () Likes to throw the odd punch and earn 3 holidays a season. 7/2 j2fav

Currie () just a plodder these days 33/1

BMM () been lucky in running recently and one to take on the head 10/1

Clark J () 1st of Karl Fitz recycle signings. Not paying dividends 50/1


Burrell (Ratti) on too much ‘bloody’ money 33/1

Davis consistently solid performer above his weight but other preferred 200/1

Johnson () not likely to make the cut, shown up once this season and didn’t disgrace 1000/1

Philbin () top of the ground runner who caught the eye of selectors 100/1

Sita (RD) never plays 16 mins or more but knows how to use an elbow) 7/2 j2fav

Mamo () our of sorts recently but could cause a shock with his low weight. 10/1

Patton () out of favour and running at in a player selling stakes Widnes 500/1

Walker () used only sparingly but plays above his weight. Others preferred. 250/1

Latu () Another of Karl F recycle signings, very little form at all over the last two years, but previously did have some interest from other stables, could be a shock on the cards if he makes the cut but others preferred until he gets a run out. 50/1


Other can be added at request.

There is no way that Brand should play at centre against Cas. He may have potential for the future but he's not ready yet.

They need to put bloody Burrell there and see if he comes close to justifying his wage. We have enough second rows.

Cas have named a decent squad, just Watts missing from last week.

Whether Brand is ready or not, all we has ask is his best and even though he was shown up last week I saw nothing but 100% from him.

Burrell will never be a RL Centre for as long as I've got a hole in my arris. Reserve grade 2nd row at best, Send him out to Widnes for experience and play one of the fringe players on the bench over him. I feel embarrassed for him seeing him wondering around without a clue.

Heard a couple of rumblings about...

a. Austin and Price has cross words, not entirely sure what about.

b. Widdop has been specifically told to pass the ball and not take the line on, by Price (that has come from a source close to Widdop)

c. Also, heard that Price and Hendo havent been seeing eye to eye over tactics etc....

The underlying picture is i think there is unrest at what Price is trying to achieve tactically. Think some aren't happy.....its certianly going to be an interesting few weeks.

This is from a different source than usual, so could be BS, although the Widdop source is the same that told me we had signed him, so.....

I agree. Although Price had to play him to find out where he is at. Looked out of his depth though.

Price couldn't of won either way last week, if he left him out, were all saying throw him in. But, hes played him and its too early for the lad.....