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Quote: Fantastic Mr Catpiss "re gidley, its quite amusing to listen to some on here banging on about gidley playing one to free up ratchford for six...it aint happening.'"

do you think Ratchford is moving into the centres?

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Quote: Fantastic Mr Catpiss "re gidley, its quite amusing to listen to some on here banging on about gidley playing one to free up ratchford for six...it aint happening.'"


I'm someone who hasn't banged-on about it, but 'ok,' i'll bite. What IS happening ?

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Quote: fez1 "Agree with this.
I've stopped blaming Asotasi (as of yesterday !) as it's not going to change anything and it ends up winding me up!

Rauhihi was OK I thought but punched below his weight, except in one game at the HJ against Leeds where he absolutely bossed it.
I could never understand why just in that one game he reached those heights.

The hiring of staff is a key issue and we've been less than good at it.

Even getting Gidley in raises a few questions for me - such as how are we going to play him in our system. Ratch could end up being shunted around - and that's not the right thing for him. I'd like him at f/b but looks like Gidley is there, and I don't thing Ratch will ever be a top class half. He can do more than an adequate job don't get me wrong, but I am left wondering)'"




Asotasi was brought in (on a very decent wage) to do the job required of him. In his time with the club he has failed to do said job in quite an extraordinary fashion. There is nothing more to say on the matter.

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Roy isn't the best and has underperformed but he still gets picked most weeks and that comes down to TS.

He's like the Rugby League Falcao eld Roy!! icon_wave.gif

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The fact he gets picked highlights the dearth of talent we have in the squad.

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Quote: Bobby_Peru "The fact he gets picked highlights the dearth of talent we have in the squad.'"



And yet some weapon on here this week was stating he'd happily get rid of Ben Evans, as he contributes nothing.

I'd rather have 3 Ben Evans on last years form than Roy.

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Quote: Paul2812 "I'm someone who hasn't banged-on about it, but 'ok,' i'll bite. What IS happening ?'"



I don't Paul, but playing the field as things are at the moment, everyone and his dog on here is banging on about the need for a ocker halfback.

Meanwhile ratch has cemented himself as our FB, he hasn't been moved forwards even when we've had options to replace him, despite our issues at 6/7 this year. The long term plan when we signed him was to replace Bert at FB, now i'd say about 95% of people on here this last few weeks are convinced he's gonna be put to stand off next year. Based on nothing, it doesn't make any sense, it's wishful thinking at best.

Besides which Gidley wouldn't be anywhere near as effective , or as vocal as we need him to be at FB.

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I don't really care which position Gidley plays, I just want to see him out on the field regardless of who gets shifted about to accommodate him. He is a leader, pure and simple, and that's the main thing we are lacking. No matter how poor we have been this season, put Gidley into the side against hull, saints at magic and huddersfield and we win those matches. He is no marquee superstar, but he has a rugby brain and knows how to manage a game in the latter stages a la kevin sinfield.

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Quote: Fantastic Mr Catpiss "re gidley, its quite amusing to listen to some on here banging on about gidley playing one to free up ratchford for six...it aint happening.'"


Plus One!!

Gidley is currently alternating between playing 6 or 7 for Newcastle Knights.

I too can`t understand why so many Wire fans have jumped to the conclusion that he is nailed on for the fullback position for us.

The extra space available for Ratchford at fullback suits his off-the-cuff style & also enables him to play as the extra pivot, that Hodgson introduced to our game.

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Ratchford is our number 1 until he leaves (which I hope is not at end of season for the Pies!).

Gidley will come in at 6 and work with Myler I think. Gaz O'Brien unfortunately I think will be cut, even if it a loan move for a year and then re-assess him.

Should Ratch be leaving, then our marquee will be another half back, with Gidley moving to 1.

Clark and Dwyer are our hookers for at least next 2/3 years, with Chris Hill leading the forwards. Need another two props as not big enough or good enough at present.

Replacement for Westwood is needed for me, Currie hopefully will keep developing and get at least another 3/4 years before he moves on. Grix is there and quality when he plays but the injuries have ruined his career.

Lineham on right wing, with Joel possibly his centre. Evans in other centre, with Russell for me although I still never understand why TS doesn't trust Matty as FB these days.

Bridge and Atkins can both move on, they have served club well over years but we need freshening up.

Others to leave - Roy, Wheeler, Penny.

Leaves likes of Laithwaite (Decent but not a Westwood), England (Hard Worker, Good Spitter), Ben Evans, The King lads, Ormsby, Patton and Philbin.

Still a decent squad when compared to others in the league, something just isn't right though at the minute..!!

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Quote: runningman29 "No doubting he's the worst signing this clubs ever made but again who the hell sanctioned this signing and on what basis?He must have thought he'd won the lottery when a SL club offered him a contract.As much as I blame Asotasi the management must take some responsibility for this terrible signing.'"

Very true. This guy went from world elite prop in the mid-00s to getting a serious injury in 2008 which saw a huge decline in his quality. That was six bloody years before we signed him. Yes, he was once Kiwi and Souths captain but after that injury he just became a squad player and eventually just someone who joined in in training.

How that made our top brass think "right let's give this guy a huge wedge of our salary cap" after six years! is quite saddening.

I don't blame Roy Asotasi for that. In fact, in a few games that he's started this season he's been fairly effective.

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Quote: Fantastic Mr Catpiss "I don't Paul, but playing the field as things are at the moment, everyone and his dog on here is banging on about the need for a ocker halfback.

Meanwhile ratch has cemented himself as our FB, he hasn't been moved forwards even when we've had options to replace him, despite our issues at 6/7 this year. The long term plan when we signed him was to replace Bert at FB, now i'd say about 95% of people on here this last few weeks are convinced he's gonna be put to stand off next year. Based on nothing, it doesn't make any sense, it's wishful thinking at best.

Besides which Gidley wouldn't be anywhere near as effective , or as vocal as we need him to be at FB.'"

But Gidley [iis[/i a full back. He's played in other positions, sometimes very poorly, and has been shafted to other positions due to a younger and better FB coming in at Newcastle...but he is a FB and I don't think I've ever seen him have a bad game at FB.

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Does anyone want to bet that Gidley will play stand-off? I can almost guarantee that he will be fullback with Ratchford back at 6.

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Gidlley will be a waste of space as will Sandow if he comes.

Asotasti is rubbish, he occasionally does something in a game and people seem impressed.

Watching the forum, a couple of people called it from the off last year.

Flying Biscuit and Wire Yed

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Very positive Neutral Zone! Might as well stick with the players we've got and not look to the NRL to make any signings.

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