The irony was that after all the talk about props this week I think that was Musgrove's best performance for us.

I hate Warrington losing. I also dislike it when we add to our own downfall through lack of territory or kicking game. Individual errors, meh, happens to the greats.

Perspective is key as you say and losing to Wigan in a challenge cup final vs the last 2 years of rugby under Powell shows we're heading in the right direction. They can take this as a learning curve.

Apart from your first sentence, I agree with your summary.

We are always short and that’s the idea of it. Wigan have better academy players and generate wins. However, there must come a draw of the average of wins in a final against them hoping it’s a grand final win.

He wouldn’t have been worse I’m afraid also. He doesn’t want to play for us can see that a mile away. Especially when we shopped him out a few weeks ago.

Thing is, he looked decent in the last few weeks, at least a lot better than his usual fare. Business as usual today while French ran the show.

Not that I’m picking out a particular player just from what I saw. We wasn’t up for it end of Wigan deserved it.

You’ve picked out a particular player…twice now

Disappointing. Disappointing that we didn't show the best of ourselves, that we didn't put Wigan under enough pressure, that we came up with errors at moments where we could have got a foothold.

Still, not disheartened. The effort was there (of course that's a given) and we fought incredibly hard to keep them out when they could have cut loose and run up a score. Lots of good defence, good scramble.

But in a final you need to find something extra and we just didn't. Maybe it can be a negative Sam can turn into a positive and learn from.

Of course he’s better than Patton- he’s been pretty good the last few weeks. Not his biggest fan but losing today wasn’t his fault, honest. We lost because of lack of composure, poor execution and decision making, not because Stef didn’t play.

Burgess must be so disappointed that they went into headless chicken mode when his coaching team will have been running drills with them for months.

The players need to have a good look at themselves and come back next week & perform as they should.

Usual fayre from the Wire, start off like a house on fire, all the fans think it's their year then it all goes tit's up half way through the season

Thanks for your insightful comments, much appreciated.

The Pulitzer Prize is in the post.

Ha ha that tit has gone straight on to my ignore list