Walker as had a mare, not sure if it’s his fault because someone on another thread said about no leadership on the field. When we had Briers he never stopped talking,honestly can’t remember anyone doing that since.

If Powell didn’t know the size of the job he’s got on his hands he surely does now.First 20 mins effort was there but that’s where it ended and Saints last try was comical and I’ll say it again this is a mid table team with probably the worst pack in SL and Widdup is stealing a living.

He can't admit the pack is a massive pile of crap, he needs them to believe they are big enough and have a chance or we won't compete at all. None of this is Powells fault. Price should have gone 3 years before he did before the rot set in.

Credit to saints they're a top quality side (that are definitely breaching the cap) they're much better than us and have been as much better as they should be expected to be.

Walker has been awful since he came on, has Widdop made any meaningful contributions?

Drop Hughes for Longstaff, Philbin for Butler and Widdop for Dean we need to make changes after 2 very poor performances. Ruck control is absolutely abysmal in attack and defence.

Simon, please, please buy us a big prop we are desperate for some go forward. Sataes stats last night beat our whole packs tonight.

We've no aggression
We've no nouse
We've no line defence

Over to you Powelly

That pack is a disgrace, no ideas, no go-forward. But everyone knew this (expect the club obviously)

Certainly no lack of effort, but the amount of basic things we do badly - and consistently badly - is very worrying.

I can't believe no-one has mentioned Matautia- the bloke has been rank average since he signed and tonight he absolutely stunk the place out. Get Wrench in there.

One or both of the half-backs need dropping, get Longstaff in and lets at least give Butler a chance to be rubbish - I'm bored of Philbin, Hughes, Holmes and J Clark hogging the rotten tomatoes.

Everything happened on the first three tackles. We either Kicked early Knocked on Got caught offside Got in the way Looked clueless Terry-Thomas sums it up best youtu.be/1oU_HFZ2Tr0

Everything happened on the first three tackles. We either Kicked early Knocked on Got caught offside Got in the way Looked clueless Terry-Thomas sums it up best youtu.be/1oU_HFZ2Tr0

Powell was involved in player recruitment early doors, so how is the mess your in now not down to him?? Your marquee players are stealing a living and your pack wouldn't stand up in the Championship.

Bar our efforts in the first 20 minutes (which is what you'd expect in a local derby), that was as bad as ANY "performance" under Price.

Now's the time for Powell to start earning his money

We've scraped a win against the worst Leeds side in 40 years
A side coached by Lee flipping Radford
and the SL's new Leigh.

Buck your ideas up, one and all.

The honeymoon is well and truly over

Widdop has been shocking, two weeks in a row

Widdop of season #1 again - anonymous, weak in defence and ineffective. Williams has still to convince me but one of them needs dropping to give Riley Dean a chance.

I'd have said anonymous.
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At least Williams takes on the opposition's line. He's just not very good at it.

Widdop might as well have brought a book along with him

Genuinely, what was you really expecting?

The last 2 games, especially tonight, were as predictable as could be. This Saints side is a 3 times champion and the best drilled team in the league by a mile - we are a side in the infancy of its 'project'. It was always going to get messy.

Tonight wasn't good at all, but let's be honest, there is going to be a few more moments like this in the next year or so and Powell needs to be given time and patience to try and sort it out.

No doubt there will be players deemed surplus to requirement along the way, but we surely knew that was always going to be the case?

We are massively missing someone calling the plays on the pitch, highlighted by Walker just throwing the ball twice into the wrong player, the one to Philbin I saw Widdop in the background just throwing his arms up in the air. Pointless him or Williams should be calling the plays it’s why we are crap in final 20 no one steps up.