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| Quote: Smiffy27 "But we do not need to rest 'em. I think we need to wait and see why we are so short of forwards. Unless you know I reckon best not to guess.
Philbin, Mulhern, Longstaff, Doro were never going to be rested.'"
Price has said Mulhern had an eye op and couple with covid issues. He can't name them due to confidentiality. Made out possibly all back for Thursday.
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| Tough one today, we clearly had issues so who knows how busted up we were to get this game on. Its a dissapointing result but I really don't feel that the changes have been made with a view to rest players for Thursday.
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| Quote: CW8 "Tough one today, we clearly had issues so who knows how busted up we were to get this game on. Its a dissapointing result but I really don't feel that the changes have been made with a view to rest players for Thursday.'"
Busted or not, you do NOT play a game of rugby league these days only using 3 subs! It's a 17 man game these days, not that price is aware of that fact.
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| Why we all getting our knickers in a twist...we are going to be in top 6..that's when the proper stuff starts...we can moan when who ever turfs us out..sit back and watch saints and Wigan or even Leeds pick up the end of season trophy...like every bloody year
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| Personally I think its important to finish second. Warrington being warrington we need a second bite of the cherry in the play offs. Winning today would've put real pressure on saints with us to play them soon.
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| Quote: ratticusfinch "Personally I think its important to finish second. Warrington being warrington we need a second bite of the cherry in the play offs. Winning today would've put real pressure on saints with us to play them soon.'"
I don't think you get a second bite with this playoff system do you? You just get one home game and not two including an away game.
Is it 3rd v 6th and 4th v 5th in round 1
Then 1st v lowest ranked semi winner
and 2 v highest ranked semi winner
So if you come 2nd and Catalans top, assuming the other places are as now the semis would be Catalans v Hull KR, Leeds or Wigan and Warrington v Saints, Wigan or Hull KR. All one off games, no second chances.
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| This is the playoff system where you can finish top with a 100% record and not concede a try and lose one game to the team who finished 6th with a 50% record and you're out.
With Catalans top currently we could see a weird final this year. They could win the semi final and they'd be in the final with an empty end at OT, but they're also more than capable of losing to Hull KR or Leeds and sending them to OT. I'd fancy Hull KR to beat Wigan if the season finished as it is now, which would leave either Hull KR or Catalans at OT against either Saints or Warrington.
Unfortunately for you guys you can't end up in a final with us unless we catch Catalans or Wigan catch you.
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| Ratchford, Williams, Widdop and Austin all playing and still can’t beat a poor Wakefield team. Forget about the forwards, there’s no excuse.
Roll on the end of season when Price does one.
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| Quote: Lord Tony Smith "Ratchford, Williams, Widdop and Austin all playing and still can’t beat a poor Wakefield team. Forget about the forwards, there’s no excuse.
Roll on the end of season when Price does one.'"
I've got to disagree with you here, well the first bit anyway. You can't have a team full of playmakers and backs it's totally unbalanced and at times particularly when we got going in the second half it was still panic rugby with players getting in each others way and we could have (undeservedly) sneaked it.
Wakefield aren't as poor as you make out from a playing roster POV (they need to look at themselves as a group) and it's generally been a tricky visit we can get beat there and put a proper score on them at home (not just the Price era).
The sacking of Chester contributed to an uplift in Wakefield's performance and the atmosphere at the ground, the banana skin prophesies and there were plenty came true
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| Quote: Lord Tony Smith "Ratchford, Williams, Widdop and Austin all playing and still can’t beat a poor Wakefield team. Forget about the forwards, there’s no excuse.
Roll on the end of season when Price does one.'"
Actually 4 halfbacks playing sounds like a recipe for disaster. Doesn’t sound likes Price had much option on squad/team. Possibly didn’t want to expose Burgess but had to name 17 hence not playing him. I’m no Price apologist but not sure what else he could do.
A strange season just carries on in the same vein, no wonder I’m rubbish at the Prediction lark. Hook OUT!
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| we may have been unbalanced and light in the middle due to our bench options but that is no excuse for the absolute P*$$ poor "defending" I've just seen on some facebook highlights.
Going up in 1's, no one wrapping the ball up, props falling off 1 on 1 tackles, defensive line like a dogs back leg... Nothing to do with coaching and nothing to do with team balance that. That is basic stuff you learn as kids. Whether it's a game that means anything or not is besides the point. Top teams play with integrity 100% of the time and don't turn up and put in a defensive performance such as that. If you want to win a GF you have to set a standard that shows in your performance in every game you play all season.
No one is bothered about losing the odd game, you'll never win everything, play at 100% or blow teams off the park every week. There are too many variables in sport. However... It's about how you play and mange the variables which ARE within your control that matters and putting yourself in the best possible position to win.
Quite simply, it's about the manner in which you lose. And what I've seen today shows just how far off the mark we are as a club. Putting a few wins together over rivals is merely papering over the cracks and enables the 'real fans' brigade who can't see the bigger picture.
It's bad enough Wakey having the cheek to charge £25 to stand in that dump but going all that way to then see Wire put in a show like that? Pathetic.
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| As soon as we saw the 19 man squad with two young lads included and the number of forwards missing there was always the chance that we might struggle. It is not really surprising that Burgess didn't get a run with the game situation. The optimists among us still hoped for a better performance and you'd think/hope we had enough firepower and grunt on the field to do the job.
I would think coaching has been a right challenge in the last few months. Most clubs have had there share of problems and we just have to make allowances.
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| Quote: Smiffy27 "I would think coaching has been a right challenge in the last few months. Most clubs have had there share of problems and we just have to make allowances.'"
I'm sure it has but on the whole I disagree.
Players know the basics of the game. Professional & seasoned internationals don't need to be coached to put their shoulder into a tackle instead of grabbing shirts and they shouldn't need to be coached to communicate defensively. These are the basic basics of Rugby we're talking about.
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| Quote: moving on... "I'm sure it has but on the whole I disagree.
Players know the basics of the game. Professional & seasoned internationals don't need to be coached to put their shoulder into a tackle instead of grabbing shirts and they shouldn't need to be coached to communicate defensively. These are the basic basics of Rugby we're talking about.'"
Yep ... I wasn't talking about the basics of tackling & defending. Sounded pretty bad on the radio. We have defended very well in some games. Hope you recover from your miserable trip and that we get more forwards together for the next game.
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| I have every sympathy if Price found himself in an impossible situation with team selection, but that hasn't been the case in all of the last three games in which our first half completion has been below 50% each time.
Irrespective of who is on the pitch, another first half with those kind of stats will see us cop a real hiding come Thursday.
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