Based on what I saw v Salford, Riley Dean is preferable to Patton.

Widdop to FB
Ratchford to stand-off
Doro, Walker, Philbin, Davis on the bench

If Mamo was fit I'd move King to 2nd row, Mamo to centre and bin off Jason Clark.

However, there's more chance of me being awarded an OBE in person by Queen Lizzie and spending the afternoon slurping the Harvey's and listening to "The Queen is Dead"

SL let's persevere with widdop and Austin if your happy with those 2 then good luck

Other than desperation, on what basis are you suggesting Patton being fetched in for one of Widdop or Austin would be a good move?

Are we just supposed to forget his previous performances and suddenly imagine he's turned into a SL level half back overnight?

Patton only gets let off because he's a local lad..
The fact he's still at the clubs says a lot about us, any of the other top 4 clubs would of shipped him on years ago...

Far from it but the performances of widdop all season and the last few from Austin suggest a change is needed..and price as done that..had Patton performed like Austin in the last few games you'd of been on here criticizing like you always do with Patton..a shake up was needed or are you happy with Austin and widdop

The only basis is to send some kind of gesture to Widdop/Austin that we're able to drop a big name if necessary, to act as some kind of kick up the booty.

Dropping players to send a message works if there's an understudy champing at the bit to come in, who then makes the spot his own and means the guy who was dropped has a struggle getting back in the team.

In this situation though, Patton will do feck all, the coach will be roundly criticised by the fans for picking a substrength side and and after a game or two he'll have to go back with his tail between his legs and start picking Widdop/Austin again.

Patton should only be selected in a time of crisis ie absolutely no other option. We all know he isn't wanted at Wire so rather let one of the young lads gain some experience. I do wonder if Austin should have been left on the field after that hit btw).

Patton has had his fair share on chances, 2018 when Brown was injured he played lots of games and he even played in the Grand Final. He isn't good enough and never will be.

I think patton is good enough he has all the tools, his timing is really good, but I also think that he is far too happy to drift in and out of games. He should want the ball all the time, he should want to determine where the game is played so he can make his mark but he doesn't seem to. First half the other week against Salford he was excellent, second half he sort of went missing. I know there were a lot of errors and the completion took a nose dive but he was the captain on the day and he shut up shop for me.

What tools? He doesn't take the line on, he doesn't organise,no side step, average kicking and passing game. I think if you compare him with George Williams who is the same age and they came through the juniors at the same time. Williams has everything Declan doesn't unfortunatley.

I’m glad he’s dropped Austin the lad is a show pony who’s bottom lip has the potential to go during big games. Don’t fall for his dummy and what else does he actually have to his game? A decent bomb yes and not much else. Widdop was running into holes and was stopped due to great Wigan defence and looks far more of a threat than Austin. Big few games coming up and I’d have Austin no way near either, Catalan will almost certainly munch him.

Sorry CW8 but he has been given plenty of opportunity to shine and other than an occasional glimpse has never impressed. His boat has sailed I’m afraid, time for the next generation.

I wouldn’t be surprised if there wasn’t a concussion issue, I was surprised he stayed on. Think your overall assessment of Austin is very harsh.

Apparently, Tyrone Roberts is a free agent again . Been released by Gold Coast ,no doubt we'll be in the running again with the thinking that anything from Oz must be good.

I agree, that's what I was saying in the rest of my post. He does have good timing with his passes, he has some good attributes to work with but doesn't show them anywhere near enough and generally he just hasn't kicked on. It should be Riley deans turn now.