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Hmm, I think that overhypes Joel Monaghan a bit. He was good but not top class for me. He didn't have exceptional pace. He was a good finisher, very consistent. Good aerial threat as well. But what did JM have that would separate him ahead of Charnley? Not sure I see it.

Hicks was similar to JM and Charnley in terms of his all round quality but was a better athlete IMO so he comes out top. We got Hicks late in his career too - in his Penrith days he used to be regarded in the conversation about fastest player in the NRL.

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Quote: sally cinnamon " But what did JM have that would separate him ahead of Charnley?'"

a decent centre.

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Quote: OSWire1993 "a decent centre.'"


spot on

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Hicks is the best winger in p&b I have seen for a VERY long time.
Probably would have to go back to John Bevan to find a winger on the same level.

An unbelievable athlete.
CC hat trick was incredible.

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Quote: fez1 "Hicks is the best winger in p&b I have seen for a VERY long time.
Probably would have to go back to John Bevan to find a winger on the same level.

An unbelievable athlete.
CC hat trick was incredible.'"

He was great...but Dessie Drummond was better imo....
However I've seen Lineham do things no winger in P&B in my memory has...all though...just a hand full mind you.

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I think Monaghan is by far and away the best winger Warrington have had in a long time. He made everything look effortless.

He got plaudits for his finishing, and rightly so, he excelled there and is without peer in that field. But he was also fantastic at defending. There were countless times where he snuffed out opposition chances and often intercepting or knocking down passes for certain tries. He was superb in the air both in attack and defensively.

But where he gets little credit is his kick returns and meters made. He didn’t look to be travelling far or fast, but routinely got us out of our own end without any trouble. While Charnley is a bit more bombastic in his return, and you notice more with his flailing arms and legs trying to hunt a penalty, JM just made meters, played the ball quickly and set a platform.

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A winger is as good as his centre. No coincidence Joel was superb under Bridge but a cast off when Bridge was released.

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Quote: rubber duckie "A winger is as good as his centre. No coincidence Joel was superb under Bridge but a cast off when Bridge was released.'"


He scored 5 tries outside Blythe at Magic weekend in 2012. Should Blythe be held up there with Jamie Lyon?

We released him due to getting older (33 ish) and Cas offering him an opportunity, not because Bridge moved on.

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With regards to Ashton, I heard he was dropped for a breach of club discipline.
There’s a video of him doing the rounds on social media of him engaging in some ‘adult activity’ which the club aren't too happy about.

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Quote: Barbed Wire "He scored 5 tries outside Blythe at Magic weekend in 2012. Should Blythe be held up there with Jamie Lyon?

We released him due to getting older (33 ish) and Cas offering him an opportunity, not because Bridge moved on.'"

You'll not get the Duck to move on that.

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Loved Des Drummond...a very exciting player...always high expectation when he got the ball...BUT his handling was a bit suspect...always likely to drop a pass or a bomb per game. Not consistent...but very exciting. Bit of a metaphor for RL in general really. The excitement has waned for the sake of consistency...making life a little duller. IMO.

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Quote: rubber duckie "A winger is as good as his centre. No coincidence Joel was superb under Bridge but a cast off when Bridge was released.'"


I always enjoy this argument because it ties in knots the people who simultaneously want to argue that Atkins never passed to his winger and that Chris Riley was overrated.

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Quote: sally cinnamon "I always enjoy this argument because it ties in knots the people who simultaneously want to argue that Atkins never passed to his winger and that Chris Riley was overrated.'"


It doesn't account for miss out passes or high kicks.

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I don't remember Riley being much of a target for high kicks. When Briers was bombing the opposition it was usually to Joel Monaghan, King or Hicks, or before that, Fa'afili.

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I loved Henry Fa'afili, he's still one of my favourite wingers, but he also had Martin Gleeson outside him and he was pure class and a proper wingers centre icon_smile.gif

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