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Quote: Smiffy27 "Flaming hell Sally ... I get frustrated too ... but I don't moan for ever and ever. I have been involved in rugby for a long time and I have think seeing the negative virtually all the time is not good. This forum is a bit of a joke. Same old negs going on and on and on ... we've heard it and we understand your feelings.'"


Go on, give us all some positives, for balance.
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Quote: morleys_deckchair "
I dont think there is a single fan looking at next season with any optimism.... Most are expecting a hard opening with performances like the back end of the season, followed by outrage and a sacking.'"


With this being Warrington though, more likely to be:
- bad start, coach under pressure
- team rallies mid season, looks to be on track
- falls away in the back end of the season

Club management verdict on the season: We must do better in 2021 on the field but off the field wolfie was a great success

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Quote: Wires71 "Go on, give us all some positives, for balance.

I'm positive about the Challenge Cup win last season. I think we've underrated it.

If someone asked what's the most significant big game performance you've ever seen from a Wire team, taking in to consideration the occasion, the opposition, outperforming expectations, what would it be?

I'm struggling to think of any game to put ahead of 2019 CC final against Saints at Wembley. eusa_think.gif

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Quote: Smiffy27 "This forum is a bit of a joke. Same old negs going on and on and on ... we've heard it and we understand your feelings.'"


Keep off the forum and stick to the barmy army facebook group then. You can join in with all the happy clappers and the middle aged mums who think we should have a 'Mrs. Wolfie' mascot and that is doesn't matter who wins, as long as everyone has fun...

I'll stick to this forum, where serious people can talk about serious faults that we can see in the team or the game. It's not about loving to moan, it's called observation and independent thought. Not blindly going along with whatever the club releases.

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Quote: moving on... "Keep off the forum and stick to the barmy army facebook group then. You can join in with all the happy clappers and the middle aged mums who think we should have a 'Mrs. Wolfie' mascot and that is doesn't matter who wins, as long as everyone has fun...

I'll stick to this forum, where serious people can talk about serious faults that we can see in the team or the game. It's not about loving to moan, it's called observation and independent thought. Not blindly going along with whatever the club releases.'"

You must be reading a different barmy army group to me, likewise reading a different forum here if you dont think theres some proper cranks on here (we love all of you though, merey xmas)

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Quote: sally cinnamon "I'm positive about the Challenge Cup win last season. I think we've underrated it.

If someone asked what's the most significant big game performance you've ever seen from a Wire team, taking in to consideration the occasion, the opposition, outperforming expectations, what would it be?

I'm struggling to think of any game to put ahead of 2019 CC final against Saints at Wembley.
Maybe 1986 Premiership against Halifax. Halifax were the team to beat at that time with a good side. I think they won the league and CC in successive seasons. We had just appointed Tony Barrow and were on a bit of a roll having beaten Widnes and Wigan. We absolutely mullered them at Elland Road against all expectations.

You could watch that game over and over and be amazed at Warrington's performance both in the forwards and backs. 75m try from Johnno (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xj3Xm7lCJhI) and even 2 trys from Boyd.
Quote: sally cinnamon "I'm positive about the Challenge Cup win last season. I think we've underrated it.

If someone asked what's the most significant big game performance you've ever seen from a Wire team, taking in to consideration the occasion, the opposition, outperforming expectations, what would it be?

I'm struggling to think of any game to put ahead of 2019 CC final against Saints at Wembley.
Maybe 1986 Premiership against Halifax. Halifax were the team to beat at that time with a good side. I think they won the league and CC in successive seasons. We had just appointed Tony Barrow and were on a bit of a roll having beaten Widnes and Wigan. We absolutely mullered them at Elland Road against all expectations.

You could watch that game over and over and be amazed at Warrington's performance both in the forwards and backs. 75m try from Johnno (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xj3Xm7lCJhI) and even 2 trys from Boyd.


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Quote: moving on... "Keep off the forum and stick to the barmy army facebook group then. You can join in with all the happy clappers and the middle aged mums who think we should have a 'Mrs. Wolfie' mascot and that is doesn't matter who wins, as long as everyone has fun...

I'll stick to this forum, where serious people can talk about serious faults that we can see in the team or the game. It's not about loving to moan, it's called observation and independent thought. Not blindly going along with whatever the club releases.'"



Where exactly is the forum for the the middle aged mums?

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Quote: Smiffy27 "Where exactly is the forum for the the middle aged mums?'"


rlhttps://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/active-conversationsrl

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Quote: Wires71 "Maybe 1986 Premiership against Halifax. Halifax were the team to beat at that time with a good side. I think they won the league and CC in successive seasons. We had just appointed Tony Barrow and were on a bit of a roll having beaten Widnes and Wigan. We absolutely mullered them at Elland Road against all expectations.

You could watch that game over and over and be amazed at Warrington's performance both in the forwards and backs. 75m try from Johnno (
That was before my time but I thought that would be the most likely suggestion too. I think you can put the Challenge Cup ahead of the Premiership as a more significant trophy, but even so, if you have to go back 33 years to find an equivalent big game performance to the 2019 CC Final, it says something about how significant that game was.

It does feel a bit like the 'forgotten trophy'. It's a bit puzzling that we're not dining out on the warm glow of that Wembley win all through this off season.

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Quote: sally cinnamon "
It does feel a bit like the 'forgotten trophy'. It's a bit puzzling that we're not dining out on the warm glow of that Wembley win all through this off season.'"



I think a good number are - especially on Facebook. But for others it was the way and how we fell away in the league and bombed out of the playoffs which has put a dampener on things. In truth I think we all just want to nail the GF now. We have waited a long time.

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Don't forget Wires 71 the much better team & nailed on winners were robbed on the day. The lustre of our win is very much tarnished & i can only look back at at the win through trauma induced tears.
Meanwhile , COYW !

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Quote: Wires71 "I think a good number are - especially on Facebook. But for others it was the way and how we fell away in the league and bombed out of the playoffs which has put a dampener on things. In truth I think we all just want to nail the GF now. We have waited a long time.'"


To be fair you stated you never went to Wembley to witness Warrington beat Saints in the first Challenge Cup final between the two teams so won't have that emotional tie to the day that the fans that went will have.

To me it was a fantastic win made all the sweeter with it being against the team that has inflicted such misery on us over the years. Perhaps if you had been in attendance to see Warrington lift the cup in such memorable circumstances as substantial underdogs against a team bang in form you would hold the winning of the trophy in higher regard.

We'll never know as you cannot replicate the experience of actually being there witnessing a trophy win just like Sally not having been in attendance at Elland Road.

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Quote: Paul Youane "To be fair you stated you never went to Wembley to witness Warrington beat Saints in the first Challenge Cup final between the two teams so won't have that emotional tie to the day that the fans that went will have.

To me it was a fantastic win made all the sweeter with it being against the team that has inflicted such misery on us over the years. Perhaps if you had been in attendance to see Warrington lift the cup in such memorable circumstances as substantial underdogs against a team bang in form you would hold the winning of the trophy in higher regard.

We'll never know as you cannot replicate the experience of actually being there witnessing a trophy win just like Sally not having been in attendance at Elland Road.'"


Yes that's a fair point. I didn't go to Wembley to witness it and it was a great achievement for sure. I'd been at all of our last 5 final losses and gave it a miss.

So I'm not denigrating the win at all - we are talking about our personal feelings.

So back to Sally's point are you dining out on the warm glow or a tad disappointed with the season?

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Quote: Wires71 "Yes that's a fair point. I didn't go to Wembley to witness it and it was a great achievement for sure. I'd been at all of our last 5 final losses and gave it a miss.

So I'm not denigrating the win at all - we are talking about our personal feelings.

So back to Sally's point are you dining out on the warm glow or a tad disappointed with the season?'"


Winning the Challenge Cup - one of only two major trophies available, means it was a successful season. To me you have to operate in a very strange stratosphere or apparently be one of the "serious people" to think otherwise.

Somewhat perversely despite it being by definition to me a successful season, at the end of the season I was disappointed. I guess that was due to the promise we showed for the season ahead with a fit Austin in full flow for the first half of the season subsequently not being fulfilled and the season ending in a miserable, damp squib run of form.

Thing is I'm not one of the serious people. To me 2020 is a new season and with the rapido-try-scoring sensation Matty Ashton being added to our physically imposing three-quarter line of Lineham, King, Gelling, Burrell and Charnley being fed by our three stand-out pivots of Austin, Ratchford and Widdop on the platform provided by our all international pack of Hill, Cooper, Clark, Philbin, BMM, Currie and Hughes I can't help being positive about the year to come.

Therefore I guess I should again take my leave from this forum and leave it to the serious people.

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