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Quote: Psychedelic Casual "Westwood’s muscles have turned to jelly. Earlier this season he was running into defensive lines with the ball as fast as he could and melting into the tacklers, looking busy but doing absolutely nothing and getting dominated.'"


Mmm.
It takes all views I guess.

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Is Westwood even training with the first team?

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Quote: Psychedelic Casual "Westwood’s muscles have turned to jelly. Earlier this season he was running into defensive lines with the ball as fast as he could and melting into the tacklers, looking busy but doing absolutely nothing and getting dominated.'"

Pretty much the same as the rest of our pack then.

Price has phased Westwood and Atkins out of the team before he’s even got anyone good enough to replace them. Both of them although past their best would bring more to the table than a few out there today.

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Just watched Widnes v Toronto from this afternoon. Number 37 for Widnes was a lad on loan from us, Ellis (?) Robson. Big lad, forward, played almost the full game, looked good - why is he at Widnes and y Tasi in our team? Makes no sense to me at all. Price clearly has his favourites and that is doing us no favours.

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Or perhaps Duckies 2nd warning wasn't so far off.

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Quote: Fantastic Mr Catpiss "Its not just a poor run of form though, we over achieved with no pressure last year without a doubt, coupled with us bouncing back frkm a very miserable 2017, price earned a lot of brownie points.

However he's rapidly ing them up the wall this season, since the brick wall of the saints game, we are unrecognisable from earlier in the season, and whilst he's giving soundbites to suggest we're getting to the bottom of it, we're getting worse.'"


I was going to say that it's starting to feel like it did towards the end of the TS days, but actually I think its more reminiscent of the late Cullen era. Big name signings are coming in and raising the expectation levels, we've hit a plateau and results are inconsistent but we're trying to create the impression that things are still heading in the right direction and these are just bumps in the road.

Incredibly some of our fans are even trying to cling on to losing these sort of games as a positive, thinking that well in the past we've been good in the league season and then lost in big games, so the way to solve it is to be worse in the league as this will give us better chance in the games that count...

We had this kind of "it will come good in the end" blind belief when Cullen was here too.

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Jason Clarke and Matt Davis. I suspect that the cost differential is probably 3:1 or 4:1. Not being critical of either of them but definitely represents questionable investment.

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Quote: rubber duckie "Or perhaps Duckies 2nd warning wasn't so far off.'"

And what warning was that?

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Quote: DAG "Pretty much the same as the rest of our pack then.

Price has phased Westwood and Atkins out of the team before he’s even got anyone good enough to replace them. Both of them although past their best would bring more to the table than a few out there today.'"


Atkins currently has a cast on his right wrist after an operation earlier this month. Before that he had a hamstring injury.

Not sure about Westwood, his performances weren't great early season but I'm sure he'd do better than Tasi.

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Quote: Lord Tony Smith "Big changes needed for me and they should start at the top. No trophy for almost a decade despite having the most resources available.

Hill and Cooper coming off after 20 mins today. Hill had just had 2 weeks off. We look so unfit and devoid of ideas. Thank God everyone else bar Saints are crap otherwise we'd struggle to make the top 5.

Recruitment has been a disgrace, as has the blind faith in players that are not and never will be good enough. Take Dec Patton out the team give Livett a go next to Austin. Ship Tasi away to Crosfields for the rest of the season (though I'm not sure he'd get a game). Bring back Westwood to give us some bite. Akaoula does about 15 mins when he plays, same with BMM (he used to play around 50-60mins at Salford). What has Ade Gardner been doing?

Our style is boring and predictable. Five drives and a high bomb. No risk or initiative or pre planned plays. What do we do in training every day?'"


Price is putting players out with niggly injuries Cooper and Hill being 2 of a few others. This information came all the way from Barrow in Furness.

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That's because Cooper & Hill are the only 2 props that can do 60/70 minutes. The overseas contingent are just 10 minute journeymen.

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Quote: ninearches "That's because Cooper & Hill are the only 2 props that can do 60/70 minutes. The overseas contingent are just 10 minute journeymen.'"

Correct however isn't that down to Price and pure neglect on his side that we don't have any adequate repalcements for Hill & Cooper? Everyone knew Tasi was a joke of a signing when it happened. Saints got rid cause he wasn't good enough for them so why are we signing players who wouldn't get in their team?

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Who releastically out of this squad is good enough? Ratchford, Lineham, Charnely, Austin, Hill, Clark and Cooper. Everybody else I'd say the jury is still out on for me and they can be easily replaced/upgraded.

1 Stefan Ratchford
2 Tom Lineham
3 Bryson Goodwin
4 Ryan Atkins
5 Josh Charnley
6 Blake Austin
7 Kevin Brown
8 Chris Hill
9 Daryl Clark
10 Mike Cooper
11 Ben Currie
12 Jack Hughes
13 Ben Murdoch-Masila
14 Jason Clark
15 Declan Patton
16 Lama Tasi
17 Joe Philbin
18 Toby King
19 Sitaleki Akauola
20 Harvey Livett
21 Danny Walker
22 Jake Mamo
23 Matt Davis
24 Jack Johnson
25 Luis Johnson
26 Pat Moran
29 Eribe Doro
30 Ellis Robson
34 Ben Westwood

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The signs for Price have not looked good for a while, but this was a poor game to make any meaningful analysis. Players will be holding back for next weekend and Price pulled off Cooper and Hill quite early on presumably to save them for Hull.

Westwood I hear is currently injured.

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Quote: lister "Atkins currently has a cast on his right wrist after an operation earlier this month. Before that he had a hamstring injury.

Not sure about Westwood, his performances weren't great early season but I'm sure he'd do better than Tasi.'"

I’ve heard the wrist issue could’ve waited until the off season. Even when fit it’s been clear that Price doesn’t fancy him and has preferred King over him.

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