King definitely CAT 2 for me as well - bafflingly overrated. Just try and remember what a centre really should be doing. Think back to our decent ones - Hiku isn't in the distant memory - King offers nothing a true centre should. Speed, evasiveness, hands, draws defenders? Tackles well and has a good jump that's it - sums up how we are seeing/picking players these days.
I see Patton has made it into the England Knights squad and Livett has been dropped - I think I watch a different game.

Really? Based on what?

Based on the results to come.

Break the bank go get that Jake Connor from hull best centre going..

The Wire need to be able to deal consistently with fast defensive lines. A lot of our moves are being smothered & we aren't making enough ground in sets of six.

its all coming from the forwards, i find the criticism of toby king to be quite harsh, there's no space being made for the 3/4's to exploit, charnley was scoring for fun last year with both king and atkins were supplying it.

This year there's just no attack, no one is going to bite in on jack hughes going straight through a gap, or skittling a defender for a quick play the ball.

The way to judge a player from our lot is would any of them walk straight into saints team may be hill Austin or daz Clark the rest wouldnt

Charnley for Grace
Austin for Thages
Clark for Roby

That's it.

Recruitment is a big issue for me. Do we trust Price to get it right in the off season? We need at least one maybe two props and a class centre.

It's been abysmal so far barring Charnley and Austin.

Ratchford over Coote
Lineham over Grace or Charney if you want.

Not a cat in hells chance Ratchford gets in over Coote based on this season.

The greatest coach of modern times doesn't agree with you...or the panel of MOS either.

you remember how i said the other week, you don't HAVE to post everything you think?

ffs, its just quietened down with saints fans and you're giving them ammo like that.

Nice try but it’s the England performance squad not a GB one so Coote is ineligible and all the stats show Coote has been miles better than Ratchford. Anyone with eyes can see that as well. One is a good utility player but not a natural fullback the other is an outstanding fullback who has been one of the best players this season.

No I stand by it.