I had it on the wireless & we still sounded as if we are plagued with lack of concentration at times in the handling department & are also at the mercy of refs when it comes to being penalised. An improvement in those two areas would make a massive difference to consistency on the field. The last line of defence seems in great shape as does that attack when confidence shines through.

Occasionally I would get criticised at work by people whom I knew didnt have the skills to do my job. I didnt take it well and it certainly didnt help my performance. Hopefully, any players reading this forum will respond differently than I did.

Surely it's different because ..

1. This is a private forum, players don't need to even be aware of it.
2. Criticism and adulation is part and parcel of professional sport. We are not here to nurture or mentor employees we are here to talk about the performance of our team which has existed a long time before and a long time after the current squad (as will us fans).

I am worried about the snowflakification of this board. Seems like we can bawl insults from the terraces that the players can hear, but not vent an opinion on here which they won't read.

Taking it further maybe we should have nurtured Tony Smith a little more rather than criticise his team selection, results, and recruitment. You know put an arm round his shoulder and build his confidence.

I agree (I've ignored the last jibe).

It's called hyperbole. ie) now we have beaten Hull KR we are world beaters again with a squad ram, jam, full of international talent.

No we are not world beaters.we are the 2nd best team in the comp atm..that could change especially if there's any more performances like Salford..hopefully not...I do understand the frustration getting walloped.but to me it was a knee jerk reaction....

And your entitled to that opinion has others are entitled to theirs,as I said earlier expectations have risen and a lot of fans will be a lot less tolerant of poor performances, 1 good performance does not fix all ills,just saying.

I'm being critical when we win.
KR and FC were massively under strength.
40-50 minute wins at most of the games we've played this season.

We still lack something up front as Westwood and Tasi and BMM if we're using him as prop, are lacking what we lost even from George King.

Great point. The vitriol and booing from the stands at the Salford match would have bothered the players a lot more than a forum.

You also get people directly talking to players on Facebook/Twitter. Forums have always been a good place to vent.

[iNo-one[/i, regardless of their career should be exempt from [iconstructive[/i criticism, it's how we improve. Just because we aren't professional RL players doesn't mean we aren't qualified to make observations. I'm not a politician but we all get to vent our beliefs and oust the incompetent at the ballot box every four years.

It's professional sport, it's not an exact science. Salford went onto get beat by a very poor Wigan team, we went onto slaughter HKR. On the same weekend, Man U fans watched in disbelief as the team that defied all odds to beat PSG got ripped to shreds by mid-table Everton.

When players are replaced by robots, gameplans by software and tactics by algorithims we can expect more, until then unpredictability and falibility is what keeps us coming back.

To listen to opposing coaches ,i don't think we have beaten a full strength side so far this season ! They all seem to get their "reasons" in before kick off.

You may have something there. Could it be that opposing coaches look at our strength on paper and accept the loss before the game kicks off? The exceptions being Saints, who wanted to compete and Salford - who had to compete having lost 4 on the run.

It seams to me everyone knows our first up defence is our weakness...or laziness.
We give every attacking team 7-8 yards to run if they want it.

Agree RD, this was main issue at Saints and against Salford. I listened to the game at HKR, and therefore cannot comment as to whether we improved in that department. HKR's try came about because we backed off, hope this wasn't/isn't going to be repeated.
I doff my cap at Ratchford's excellent goal kicking.

I miss our defensive intensity from when price took over, or that commitment and effort we had not seen for a while under smiht. The players seemed to have slacked off or reverted to old habits. It's surely a mental thing to maintain that and be proud of it.

Is it coincidence that it's happening now we seem to be more of a threat going forward? Did we over complicate our buildup to the Easter weekend by holding back in defence to conserve energy?

We cannot keep bemoaning the forwards as not good enough, they have it within them to have matched the Saints, salford and catalans pack. On that particular day they didn't for two of those sides we win more often than not. So the actual game does not frustrate mess much as our ability to persistently lose games were expected to win. I cannot really put that on price as the same could be said under Smith. So I don't know how it keeps happening, same could be said about Liverpool they always had a loss to a Sunderland or Coventry and were the same but under klopp there's been quite a big turnover of players the team today is quite different to from a few years ago. Has price had the oppertunity to bring in enough of his own yet to turn us into genuine title contenders or is he starting to build? I'm still not sure iveseen enough to think this team can win the grand final, they can beat any side in tbe league but in pressure games I'm not always as confidant.