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| I think I'm moving the decade to the 2030s!
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| Quote: Wires71 "I hope this post is brought up in 12 months in a positive light.'"
We might have the "arrogant fans that the rest of the league loves to hate" and "club spent too much and overextended itself" parts in common, just without the collection of trophies and world class rugby on display.
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| Quote: rubber duckie "
This year I expect win win win.
No bridesmaid to anyone. I'll be disappointed if we lose more games than I can count on one hand in a season.
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Seven?
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| 7...people from Widnes have 7 fingers.
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| Quote: sally cinnamon "I agree with duckie on this. The era of rugby league which I remember most fondly coincided with the era Wigan dominated. Usual thinking is that you want an even and competitive league to create interest with some changing of the guard at the top, but sometimes the existence of a benchmark team can lift a whole sport. International cricket has had more changing of the guard at the top in the past decade, following a long period where of dominance by first the West Indies and then Australia, but I think it was better back then.
Wigan winning everything got tiresome at times and Maurice's smugness used to grate but they had players back then that took the sport to a new level
They were all great players but had they played for a variety of clubs we would have had a more vibrant competition. When Wigan poached Andy Gregory from Wire I still recall the report by The Guardian RL correspondent at the time when he stated [iWhat do Wigan want with Gregory as they already have Shaun Edwards? [/i In the 1980s there was still a good deal of RL on terrestrial TV which also helped to put Wigan and their players in front of a wider audience. In the long run the most important factor in any sport is competition, and dominance by anyone destroys that. Sally appears to have a passing interest in NFL and they go to great lengths with 'the draft' to even up the teams every year. I believe that most US sports still 'pool' revenue and divide most of it up evenly between the teams. That's another policy to avoid domination by one side.
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| Don’t underestimate the role of “Superstars “ in raising the profile!
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| Quote: rubber duckie "I don't think I'm cocksure when I say Wire will walk 2019 and I am comfortable expecting Wire to emulate the Wigan of the 1980's for years to come.'"
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| I've skipped all but the opening post on this ridiculous thread, so apologies if this has already been said,
but to emulate Wigan of the 80's we need to go and buy the young lad at full back for Leeds, Luke Gale and Greg Eden from Cas, Mark Percival and Alex Walmsley from Saints, the prop from Huddersfield that made the dream team. Tom Johnston from Wakey, oh and David Fifita while we are at it. a couple of top Aussies maybe Inglis and Latrell Mitchell and a good kiwi maybe Marty Tapau or someone, and then Bring Dec Patten through to show we're bringing local talent through.
oh and then win the challenge cup 8 times on the bounce and other stuff....
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| Quote: Asgardian13 "They were all great players but had they played for a variety of clubs we would have had a more vibrant competition. When Wigan poached Andy Gregory from Wire I still recall the report by The Guardian RL correspondent at the time when he stated [iWhat do Wigan want with Gregory as they already have Shaun Edwards? [/i In the 1980s there was still a good deal of RL on terrestrial TV which also helped to put Wigan and their players in front of a wider audience. In the long run the most important factor in any sport is competition, and dominance by anyone destroys that. Sally appears to have a passing interest in NFL and they go to great lengths with 'the draft' to even up the teams every year. I believe that most US sports still 'pool' revenue and divide most of it up evenly between the teams. That's another policy to avoid domination by one side.'"
Yes the NFL is very striking in that way. It's a paradox that America is the bastion of unregulated free-market capitalism in so many ways, but when it comes to their sports they have a real attitude of putting the needs of the sport as a whole ahead of any one club. There isn't the selfishness and greed that you see in European sports - probably because the clubs know that having the NFL as a top class product results in huge revenues for every club.
But also the US has some other advantages which enable it to support a competitive league. The huge population and massive infrastructure for development, at high school and college football, means there is an enormous amount of talent to pick from and there is no need for NFL clubs to get involved with running academies. This is the prerequisite for the draft, and why you couldn't have it in rugby league here, because you need a separation between the professional clubs and the development of juniors, so players then "graduate" from the juniors and get picked up aged 21-23 as ready made players rather than picked up as schoolboys.
In Super League, I think the league is more competitive now, but it hasn't really improved as a product as the quality has dropped. I think what you really want for a good product is having at least 3 dominant forces, that create a balance at the top. Tennis has had it, with Federer, Nadal and Djokovic plus Murray at his best. The Premier League is benefiting from having City and Liverpool and prior to that possibly the best Premier League years were the years when Arsenal were strong but United were also at their peak. In Super League, we probably peaked mid 2000s when Bradford, Saints and Leeds were all top sides.
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| Your pack is no where near good enough
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| Quote: Ruune Rebellion "Your pack is no where near good enough'"
The pack was good enough to get us into two finals...where the halfback's wasn't good enough to get us over the line...
This has since been addressed.
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| At the moment we have ourselves, Wigan, St Helens, Leeds, Hull FC, Catalan, Castleford, Huddersfield? Spending I assume full cap (or close to). The only difference in salaries paid out to players will be from teh Marquee allowances that some clubs have.
How many clubs spent the same amount on players as Wigan in the 80's?
In short, It cant be done, and wont be repeated I feel in a salary capped sport.
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| Quote: Ruune Rebellion "Your pack is no where near good enough'"
is that what their saying in the lake district?
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| Quote: Ruune Rebellion "Your pack is no where near good enough'"
Once Ben Currie is back it will be.
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