That's half my point silver, Hill makes it too easy for the 45/55 calls never mind 40/60's he needs to be smarter bit of a thread drift I wouldn't have him as a captain

Hill had an indifferent game and gave away stupid penalties - and he's done that at a couple of other matches BUT he's still instrumental in what we do and generally gives us go-foward.
End of. Move on.

"End of, Move on"? Whatever you say...

I suppose we'll have to debate on that Widnes topic now.

Hopefully SP will deal with Hilly and will be squeaky clean on Sat.

Ratchford for me has developed in to a great fullback, Safe hands, good defensively and reads the game well. I'm happy with him, i agree with whoever said it before But i'd leave Sitaleki out and Give George King his spot. He's got a good engine and has done loads more than Sitaleki has for ages. I'm a fan of Sita but George definately deserves a spot on the bench. Ashton Sims got through a tonne of work whilst here and him coming of the bench this year would have added alot more than Sita has for me. If he's not dropped i hope he's used properly.

When Hill first came on the scene he was just a nice lad who was made up the be given the chance. he turned up and got on with the game.

Since then and since given the captaincy he's just comes across as an arrogant @r$e. Met he a few times and he seemed that way too an all. He needs a shock. make someone else captain and drop him for a game. he needs to play how he did in his first 3 seasons.

I don't care how arrogant Hill may have become, and they do say you shoukdn't meet your heroes for a reason - lots of top sportsmen and artists are very arrogant and often unlikeable.

The only issue with Hill is thenumber of penalties he gives away, and Price and his team need to get to grips with that.

However, there isn't a club in SL, and probably most in the NRL, who wouldn't send their CEO crawlinglover broken glass to get him, warts and all.

He will need to be taking a few more sharp intakes of breath than nornal his Saturday though - if the Cas forwards managed to wind him up god knows how he'll react to Catalans.

Strangely enough, on the international scene he still plays how he used to do &, in my opinion ,is the equal of the Burgess brothers if not better. Perhaps turning over rants to the ref in his mind are spoiling his talent on the field.

Hill Stats

year m ag pen pen position
2018 2654 7.63 16 2nd
2017 2058 7.98 16 2nd
2016 3983 8.20 30 1st
2015 3706 7.55 22 1st
2014 3258 7.54 14 1st


For 5 years he has been either our largest or second largest penalty machine. 2016 was a high point.

Beaten by Benny this year & Jack Hughes last year.

The stats whilst useful as usual don't tell the whole story. Hill plays long minutes in a combative front line role so he's bound to 'attract' penalties more so than a Kevin Brown or an Akuoala.

My problem is that most of Hill's seem avoidable and are gained through petulance, being able to be easily wound up and unfortunately more recently by reputation.

Awesome in your comparison of Quality fullbacks you list:
A 40 year old retired Australian.
A player who you agree was last in decent form five (5) years ago.
and a serial menace to society, who cost his team a grand final chance and hasn't played the game for 12 months due to his last indiscretion.
and Ben Barba......... who has so far won nothing other than a pair of slightly soiled Eddie Hemmings used Y fronts...

who exactly can we have who is also a winner of leagues and challenge cups and is an England international..... go on

have a word with yourself he is currently our only creative spark in the team......

Ratchford doesn't concern me at all. Seems as safe a pair of hands under the high ball as you could want (hope this doesn't bite me come Saturday). I'm sure he did a great 1 on 1 tackle on Friday, and he generally causes consternation amongst the opposition.
On the thread drift however I am now in the "what is the point of Akouala" camp, I thought G King was much better and in fact did a good job.
As for Roberts, did he have concussion before he stepped on the pitch? Finally Hill shut the **** up and play the game.

For regular readers...the positivity will resume tomorrow!