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Quote: Wires71 "So are you not placing an accumulator on 6/6 for first 6 games. This is what I thought you were advocating.'"


You would have to ask for an accumulation like that as a special.
No I'm talking 23 or 30 games not 6.

Look.I'm not blinkered to the possibility or no new scrum half early doors but I expect the team with Patton to be almost equally at strong, string enough to get 5/6 at least not 3!

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Quote: AS108 "If you’re being serious then you talk absolute rubbish. Warringtons recruitment has been nowhere near as good as you and loads of others have been making out. The only top signing is BMM with Goodwin and Brown, Akauola struggling to get a game in the NRL (doesn’t mean he’ll fail, I know) and Roberts who by all accouts isn’t a bad player but not marquee standard. I’m not criticising that recruitment either I think it’s good on the whole but not good enough to take a relegation contender to grand final contender even if this league is average. For me, a lot of wire (and non wire) fans need to be more realistic and patient, this is very much a transition year with a very thin squad so 5th or 6th would be a successful season and as a non Warrington fan I don’t see Warrington as contenders and am not particularly worried by them. I’m not saying all this to criticise Warrington either, I just can’t believe that you would actually want Price sacked if you weren’t top 4 by May, if you’re being serious.'"


What you haven't factored in is the return of Ben Currie and Dom Crosby. Add these to the additions we have made and we will go fine. Tyrone Roberts will be a massive improvement on what we had in the halfs last year and will lead the team around the park. He will certainly be better than anything else on show this season. BMM will add grunt in midfield. Our bench props will add grunt up front when the starters are spelled.

Tell me who you think will boss this season?

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Quote: kirtonLindseyWolf "What you haven't factored in is the return of Ben Currie and Dom Crosby. Add these to the additions we have made and we will go fine. Tyrone Roberts will be a massive improvement on what we had in the halfs last year and will lead the team around the park. He will certainly be better than anything else on show this season. BMM will add grunt in midfield. Our bench props will add grunt up front when the starters are spelled.

Tell me who you think will boss this season?'"

Yes you're correct here...it gives us a full squad...the issue both us and Pies struggled with.
Pies missed Sam, they paid a full season of a marquee wage to him.
I think that and that they made a cc final kept Wane in his job for this season...if they too aren't top 4 in the first 1/4, I'll be trying to get a bet on him as the first coach sacked.

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I'd be ok with 3/6 depending on positive performances in the losses. Given we have a new half back (a very good one) who may miss the start of the season and two of our bigger forwards, Crosby and Akauola, in the same position we need to be realistic. I think we're the only team in the 'big 5/6' with a new coach who want the team to play differently than last year and is trying to instill a new philosophy. That, and Roberts starting a little late (given he's here to boss the team and provide x factor as our marquee player) are the primary reasons I'm being cautious. It would be absolute madness to start calling for Price's head at an early point in the season.

Having said all that, there's no reason why we can't win more than 3/6 with the squad we have. I just won't be reacting like POTUS if we're on 6 points after 6 rounds.

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Let's put it this way...if we are 3/6 then it's nailed on to be 3/7.

6 points from 14 isn't remotely ok.

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Well said Rico. It's early days and the performance and attitude are key for me in the first few games. If they are right then the results will come.

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Quote: AS108 "The only top signing is BMM with Goodwin and Brown, Akauola struggling to get a game in the NRL (doesn’t mean he’ll fail, I know) and Roberts who by all accouts isn’t a bad player but not marquee standard. I’m not criticising that recruitment either I think it’s good on the whole but not good enough to take a relegation contender to grand final contender even if this league is average. For me, a lot of wire (and non wire) fans need to be more realistic and patient, this is very much a transition year with a very thin squad so 5th or 6th would be a successful season and as a non Warrington fan I don’t see Warrington as contenders and am not particularly worried by them. I’m not saying all this to criticise Warrington either, I just can’t believe that you would actually want Price sacked if you weren’t top 4 by May, if you’re being serious.'"


I'm a Warrington fan and agree with a lot of what you say, but not the bit in bold.

What [iis[/i the standard for a marquee player if Roberts does not meet it? Off the top of my head the marquee players in SL I can think of are Tomkins, Williams, Watkins, Barba and previously Sandow. The only players better than Roberts are maybe Barba and Sandow, but even then they are not as consistent and have played in better teams which makes it easier to look good.

The question for me is not Roberts' marquee quality, it's whether he settles. If he does, his off-the-cuff brilliance suits the English game and is just what Warrington and Super League need. Take a look at some stuff he's done in a more defence-based league and you'll see what he could achieve in our more open gamehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v

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Quote: Hatfield Town Wire "I have to agree with RD again if we are not in the top four by the split questions should be asked. The owner will be expecting top four by the split if truth be known.'"


Okay, let's step back and think of this in the following context...

The year Smith joined us early in the season we finished 10th in the league but won a Challenge Cup Final after an easy cup run and [ijust[/i beating Wigan in the semi. If we had lost narrowly to Wigan in that semi it would have been another failed cup run and a poor position in the league... would we be calling for Smith's head, bearing in mind what we would have missed out on in the following years?

Just saying'...

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Quote: easyWire "I'm a Warrington fan and agree with a lot of what you say, but not the bit in bold.

What [iis[/i the standard for a marquee player if Roberts does not meet it? Off the top of my head the marquee players in SL I can think of are Tomkins, Williams, Watkins, Barba and previously Sandow. The only players better than Roberts are maybe Barba and Sandow, but even then they are not as consistent and have played in better teams which makes it easier to look good.

The question for me is not Roberts' marquee quality, it's whether he settles. If he does, his off-the-cuff brilliance suits the English game and is just what Warrington and Super League need. Take a look at some stuff he's done in a more defence-based league and you'll see what he could achieve in our more open gamehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v'"


Watching that footage tells me two things. Firstly, we will be a far, far better team with Roberts in it. Secondly, I don't think we actually need any centres with some of those cut out bullet passes!

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Quote: Kevin Turvey "Watching that footage tells me two things. Firstly, we will be a far, far better team with Roberts in it. Secondly, I don't think we actually need any centres with some of those cut out bullet passes!'"


...and there's only Barba and Sandow as recent imports who've produced anything similar in the NRL. If Roberts isn't marquee-quality I don't know which other half-back in Super League could be. I like Gale, Williams and Tomkins but I couldn't see them tearing up the NRL.

The biggest thing for me is that he has the whole package - good footwork, speed, a good long and short passing game, and a good kicking game. He is also a very good goal kicker. Lets hope he settles in okay and stays injury-free.

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I'm getting really excited and hold much hope going in to the new season. I'm hoping the new coaching structure will bring a big turn in our fortunes fairly soonish, in the same way Smith dramatically changed our performance and results when he arrived. First and foremost, we should be patient and give Price the time and space he needs. That said, with the new energy, players and returnees, I don't don't see why we can't win our first 6 and more. Firstly though, I'll be happy if there are signs of effort- that will make an instant improvement on last year. Anything else will be a bonus during the early rounds.

Although untested as a unit, our pack should cause at least a few problems with these players on the pitch at any one time:- Hill, Clark, Cooper, BMM, Sitaleki, Currie.

I think we have so much to look forward to this year with some exciting recruitment and new coaching staff. COYW

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Quote: easyWire "I'm a Warrington fan and agree with a lot of what you say, but not the bit in bold.

What [iis[/i the standard for a marquee player if Roberts does not meet it? Off the top of my head the marquee players in SL I can think of are Tomkins, Williams, Watkins, Barba and previously Sandow. The only players better than Roberts are maybe Barba and Sandow, but even then they are not as consistent and have played in better teams which makes it easier to look good.

The question for me is not Roberts' marquee quality, it's whether he settles. If he does, his off-the-cuff brilliance suits the English game and is just what Warrington and Super League need. Take a look at some stuff he's done in a more defence-based league and you'll see what he could achieve in our more open gamehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v'"


Haven’t watched much off him tbh, just gone off what I’ve seen a few people say so I might well be wrong but either way definitely an improvement on Brown, Patton and Gidley as well.

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Leeds could go either way (inspite of any preseason games, both teams will be "rusty"icon_wink.gif, I expect a loss away at Hull, and wins in the other 4 of the 6.

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Quote: rubber duckie "3/6 as posters have said they are happy with would once again see us fighting to avoid the drop for relegation. That isn't anywhere near good enough for a team like Warrington.

If we aren't top 4 by May...Price needs shipping out and Hendo to replace him and if there's no improvement by July then he goes too.
No fluffing about...out.'"

As others have said 3/6 in March is not 'relegation zone' for a brand new coach with a very new team. There will remain lots of time to continue to gel and improve our results. Equally, to sack Price for not getting in the top four at first time of asking is crazy - the sort of idiocy that goes on in Premier League soccer. I'm also puzzled that you'd sack Price and appoint his (presumably also guilty of poor coaching) assistant even for a few months: what happened the last couple of times we tried that? I am as ambitious for the club as is anyone here but heaping on the pressure for instant magic after the money our directors have splashed out in the close season is totally unreasonable.

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Quote: Gazwire "I'm getting really excited and hold much hope going in to the new season. '"


And so it begins. The roller coaster which is being a Wire fan. icon_smile.gif

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