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Quote: Wires71 "Was it "negativity" to comment on our woeful performances, recruitment, league position, post match press conference nonsense - or was it reality and accurate prediction? We were not given a lot to be joyful about and to be fair this is a Warrington Rugby League forum. Be a bit boring if every post started "everything is awesome". No, the realists called it back in March 2017, just took the forum rump to catch up over 6 months.

In terms of 2018 positivity I think you will find a number of those criticising the car crash as it unfurled in 2017 (the addicted negative lot) are actually quite appreciate of the steps the club are now making post TS exit.'"


Bang on this is, why is it so bad for people to accept not everyone is a happy clapper,yes I’ve said it, more controversy for them.

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Would like an annoucment before start of new sesson.

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Quote: karetaker "Would like an annoucment before start of new sesson.'"

A source close to the club said an English coach had also been offered the job,wouldn't say who but you never know .Perhaps they are waiting until after the Grand Final to make an announcement,could shock us all.

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The job has been offered to Steve Price and he has accepted. The team have all been told.

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I can't understand why people who were desperate to see TS gone can't let it go now he has gone.

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Quote: Captain Hook "I can't understand why people who were desperate to see TS gone can't let it go now he has gone.'"


Which people ?

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He probably means you for saying I told you so about calling out problems early on last season when others (like me) were saying we won the LLS and made 2 finals in 2016 so lets not get ahead of ourselves.

But I agree with what you say above this is a Warrington rl forum and it would be boring if everyone agreed. I think a lot of people on here take this forum and themselves too seriously. All it is is an exchange of views from people that support the same team. I'm interested to read peoples views and I'm not bothered about being right or proved right, my views shift over time. Over the years I've dipped in and out of this forum and the old WolfWeb site I've done a few U-turns that I can remember. I've been a big fan of Briers for about a decade or so, but in his early years I thought he was overrated and I bet if I could dig out some of my posts in the early 2000s I was saying stuff like he's unreliable, ship him out and bring in someone like Dunemann from Halifax. When Steve Anderson arrived I bought in to his reputation and his talk, flat pass rugby, Rodwell seemed a decent signing and great leader, others who had more experience of watching Wire had their cynic warning radar flashing through that off season when I was saying how excited I was....soon changed my tune on that one! And I was an unapologetic Cullenite for his first few seasons right until that time we got knocked out of the Cup at Hull KR and I realised then were were stagnating, and I moved in to the Cullen out brigade for the last 2 years of his time.

I'm still an unapologetic Smithite though, I still think he's the best coach that we could have had and if we appoint Steve Price I will take some convincing that we wouldn't have been better off with Smith. Although I am not blind to his faults, recruitment was poor under TS for a number of years now.

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Completely agree - it's about exchange of views in a respectful way. In the main I think we do that on this forum. I do suspect some personal vendetta's going on, but that's just a reflection of the limitation and defect of some peoples character.

You are right, this is a throwaway RL forum board not a written submission to the High Court and as for those so offended they announce loudly that they are staying away, that's a weakness they cannot tolerate people holding different views from themselves.

This forum should be a broad church with a kaleidoscope of views encouraged from people of all walks of life. Inclusion, not exclusion.

There's a saying that is quite apt "Instead of bitching about the dark, light a candle".

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This is a thread about what we want from the club, i.e. forward looking. There are plenty of threads about "where it all went wrong" and "wasn't I clever for saying Smith should go" where the past can be re hashed ad infinitum.

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The sooner the club make an official announcement regarding the coach the sooner we can "lance the boil" and move on to fully supporting the new coach, the new players and ethos they bring. The TS and RA debates will soon be forgotten. That's when we can look forward to the 2018 season.

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Quote: Wires71 "Completely agree - it's about exchange of views in a respectful way. In the main I think we do that on this forum. I do suspect some personal vendetta's going on, but that's just a reflection of the limitation and defect of some peoples character.

You are right, this is a throwaway RL forum board not a written submission to the High Court and as for those so offended they announce loudly that they are staying away, that's a weakness they cannot tolerate people holding different views from themselves.

This forum should be a broad church with a kaleidoscope of views encouraged from people of all walks of life. Inclusion, not exclusion.

There's a saying that is quite apt "Instead of bitching about the dark, light a candle".'"


And this is why i don't understand the "I'm not posting on here anymore" posts.

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It took me a long time to be convinced that Smith should be replaced. I was in the camp of those people asking who we would get to replace him that's better than what we have. Like Sally said, it will take lots and lots to get me to believe Price is a better option but equally I accept I may be proved wrong.

The way people react to things, process change etc. is all part of our make up and character.

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Back to the thread. What do I want.

Silly question really because the answer is "everything"

Titles, a Guardiola-esqe equivalent RL playing style, a group of players who give everything on the field, a club hierarchy who tell me what's going on, on a daily and weekly basis. A good match day experience. A good atmosphere at the stadium. A commercial leader at the top of the hierarchy who is bold and strong and who delivers change in an effective and meaningful way. Honesty. Integrity. Responsible.

Also, while I'm not a "drum banger", I do think the stadium lacks any identity inside. Id love it to be a patriotic place with banners and history showcased through the home stands. I'm not talking nal Al and his 'wolves forever' and 'it's always our year' cringe efforts, just something to liven the place up on match day and to make it a bit less.. Soulless.

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Quote: Captain Hook "This is a thread about what we want from the club, i.e. forward looking. There are plenty of threads about "where it all went wrong" and "wasn't I clever for saying Smith should go" where the past can be re hashed ad infinitum.'"


So why didn't you pull browny up on "Negativity has become a bit of an addiction for some on here, it is embarrassing" which opened up the topic.

That's hardly a blue skies thinking, forward looking, motivating post is it? No, instead you just have a got at me instead. Tiresome. Just add me to your block list - simple.

In the meantime I forgive you, as Wirefan said, change is difficult for some, as is acknowledging one was wrong with hindsight. We need to be patient with those people.

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Quote: Wirefan "Back to the thread. What do I want.

Silly question really because the answer is "everything"

Titles, a Guardiola-esqe equivalent RL playing style, a group of players who give everything on the field, a club hierarchy who tell me what's going on, on a daily and weekly basis. A good match day experience. A good atmosphere at the stadium. A commercial leader at the top of the hierarchy who is bold and strong and who delivers change in an effective and meaningful way. Honesty. Integrity. Responsible.

Also, while I'm not a "drum banger", I do think the stadium lacks any identity inside. Id love it to be a patriotic place with banners and history showcased through the home stands. I'm not talking nal Al and his 'wolves forever' and 'it's always our year' cringe efforts, just something to liven the place up on match day and to make it a bit less.. Soulless.'"


I'd like to feel that pre-match "tingle" again. I can't explain it, when the big matches come against good opponents and the game could go either way. The crowd are polarised and there is tension in the air. I remember a recent night game Saints away at KR like that. It's what the commercial men don't understand when it comes to live games. Camped under a tin roof, excitement and apprehension, the noise, the smells, the passion, it's tribal, it's the very essence of belonging. It's nothing to do with kiss cams and dancing girls.

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If you ask me...only positivity has come from all the negativity...which can only mean it was all positive.

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