We all know that Wire should be in a better position than this. But it is what it is and we have 7 of the biggest games coming up for years. Playing in Finals and Semi-Finals is easy in comparison. It's frightening ... injuries to key players, man sent off after 10 minutes etc. Got to be positive and go for it ... no time for whingers now.

Dec Patton has won us the last two matches with his kicking game...

Most tries in rugby league are down to individual efforts. We look way better without Gidley. He is a very poor decision maker at half back. I thought we looked quite solid tonight. Certainly seen games where we looked clueless. Don't think fair to say that tonight. It's interesting very few comments when we win. The usual whingers still having to find only negatives. Getting boring now.

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That does not make sense, your whinging about whinging, better to say nothing then hey, as for myself if there is something to be positive about i will so.

Negatives:
- Still not fluid enough in attack
- whoever came up with the game plan to rush out at Joe Mellor needs to have a word with themselves.
- Ben Currie's knee.

Positives:
- Peta Hiku and that right hand edge finally look threatening. Brown / Hughes / Hiku / Russell - looked ok.
- Pattons short kicking game.
- Defence, Defence, Defence. 10 points, 10 points and 6 points is a good return.

you seriously thought we looked better without Gidley ........ jesus.........

I have no words.....

Widnes are a shambles of a side and we stone cold struggled to unlock their defence.....

a little tip..... we beat Leigh by 50 points with Gidley in it ....... then we went to Wigan and beat them.

Tonight that was an absolute desperate display of dreadful rugby......

guess who was missing....

So what effect on the season to date would you say your positivity has had?

Perhaps you too haven't been positive enough?

Currie is just another level. First touch he drove 12 - 15m from a tap 20. Second touch he pulled a great pass out to put Atkins away down the touchline. Better vision and execution than we've seen from most of our halves this year.

The chase back to catch the Widnes centre after he had injured his knee was another highlight. i hope he has the time to play his way in to the World Cup squad.

Over recent years i have seen Widnes come up with the same ploy, push at the scrum & get the ball back.Why don't we try that? I am thankful that after the hour we started to score a few points but we need to be thankful that Widnes were worse than us. Why the same plays, side to side with a kick to the corner for a conversion that rarely comes off,when Hiku showed more enterprise with a kick to the posts that left the Wire flat footed ?
At least the pitch looked good.

I'm pretty sure I saw Patton revers kick for Brown under the posts. Last week grubbered Currie through. neither of those have been formula plays.

We'l be fine. The biggest concern of the night came from CoughitupDennis when he admitted that when a side plays to SL standard then his team can't compete.

I thought Philbins contribution in the 2nd half was very good. His development this season is one of the few positives we can carry forward to next year.

I also have to agree , however I feel we looked so much better attacking with someone on the right side who can actually pass to the right .
Hiku looked like he had so much more time on the ball getting the quick passes from Brown .