The most irritating thing for me. listening to Radio Leeds, was how obvious the deficiencies are to everybody. The commentators were harping on about how good the team/squad is on paper but that they looked clueless. CLUELESS the man said. What the golly gosh do they golly practice in training. They also made reference to the 'lifespan' of a coach and the fact that in their view TS is a good coach but perhaps the players have grown bored of his team talks / methods and are just not listening anymore.

As Runningman pointed out, the evidence is their in black an white.

Wrong assumption. What would be pointless would be appointing 'just anyone ' as coach to enable sacking TS now. I have it on good authority that the club has approached at least one very successful NRL coach who, not surprisingly, turned them down. I agree that the TS era is over, but we need the right man if we are to turn it around, and we haven't found him yet.

That sounds about right. We need a good coach & not a "panic buy". We don't want to make the mistake we did with replacing " Golden Brown" with Kevin Brown.

Leeds showed last year that one player can make all the difference between top 4 and bottom 4.
They missed a hooker and when they got one it all changed round.
Just like Warrington they were full of good players they just couldn't get them going.
Not sure what's up with Declan Parton as I thought he was going to be the guy but a good scrum half would make all the difference to you imho.
Gidley and Ratchford are too much like full backs playing out of position. Great players but they need help.
Your strike players often broke us but that link to the next phase just wasn't there.

Hope you sort it out. I've enjoyed seeing Warrington break the hold of the supposed big teams.

The backs are lambs to slaughter behind a beaten pack.
Picking out different individuals from the backline every week must Shirley spell out where the problem is!

Clueless doesn't even begin to describe the ineptitude of yesterday's 'performance', throw in spineless and gutless. Wakefield deserved their win, our problem is that they didn't particularly have to play out of their skins to get the points.

All round a pathetic display no positives

Championship beckons. Wow. Thats quite a fall from grace.

A pack containing Hill, Clark, Westerman, Cooper, Savelio etc. shouldn't be getting bullied, thrown off their game, intimidated, overran and reduced to a nervous wreck by some of the teams we've faced, and lost to.

This isn't a we are too good to go down post. No one is.

This is the oldest truism in sport. A team that wants it more, who have a desire, focussed anger, motivation and a collective bond of spirit almost always overcomes those who think the world owes them a living, a trophy and glory. So it has proved.

I'm sick of saying that this team, perhaps this club, is mentally weak and not prepared or able to dig in at the trenches, but with every week it becomes more apparent.

But the team has no direction ,no team cohesion & is haemorrhaging points by the bucket full . There is obviously a toxic presence in the club ,whether players or coaching staff,& holding onto the poison longer than necessary could do the club more harm than good. If the club have no remedy in their sights for this matter then they need to be honest with the fans before the begging bowl is out for season ticket sales.

Hiku had a shocker .

Look on the positive...Hiku can only improve.