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Quote: silver2 "I'm afraid that pack of yours sounds a bit powder puffy. Instead I'd go withMost of if not all of the current pack aren't fit to lace their boots.Oh I'd like to add Les Davidson to that list.

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Dave Chisnall too!

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Quote: lefty goldblatt "Good old Tone, the social worker.

Are we watching RL, or doing an NVQ in community service?'"


LOL...I can just see the picture in the Warrington Guardian now..about page 7...Benny hugging an old granny in a day care centre with big Ashton stood at the back holding a wire scarf above his head.....NASTY

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Quote: Oxford Exile "LOL...I can just see the picture in the Warrington Guardian now..about page 7...Benny hugging an old granny in a day care centre with big Ashton stood at the back holding a wire scarf above his head.....NASTY'"


Well, we did have Ashton modelling T-Shirts the other week in t'Guardian.

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Quote: the flying biscuit "no one really knows whats happened to Harrison.

Hes not a Wire player in that hes not in the squad. but he's not signed for anyone else, and he's not retired. hes currently having a Testimonial season (and well deserved) with full support of the club...except for tonights jolly ( a ladies night
Interestingly, I've heard Ben has took a hefty insurance payout because of his knee injury, therefore made sense from him to call it quits.

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I believe that if had ben Harrison stuck to the strict diet and rehab gym physiology as instructed by the club then he would be in the squad this year or at least part of smiths plans. however he is not

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After his aftermatch interview after the Leigh match smith listed off names of players who would come into contention, didn't hear him mention Crosby.

Maybe smith has forgotten Crosby signed on, or did he

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Hand injury

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Quote: rubber duckie "Hand injury'"


Was that caused by his wife squeezing his hand?

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Could be.
It may be that his wife had a tough time. Things like that are more important than rugby.

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Quote: rubber duckie "Could be.
It may be that his wife had a tough time. Things like that are more important than rugby.'"


Exactly, please refrain.

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Get ryan bailey back

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Quote: Wireste92 "Get ryan bailey back, hiding behind the smallest team mate he can find'"


Edited for accuracy

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Quote: rubber duckie "Now the red mist has gone....

The state of our team come down once again to a lightweight pack...and how we roll with it..

No finger at Hill. We are getting hammered up front. There is little go forward meters from Sims again and Cooper.

Yes we're short on front rowers with grunt but why don't we try and roll early with the pack we have out and get a lead and then try the kicking game and hold on to the lead while the forwards take a breather?

From minute one...we had the outside backs running the ball up!!! What in heavens? You can't tell me the forwards need a break that early on!?

Yes our back are average at best excluding Lineham but behind a dominant pack on the front foot, even our backs would look great.'"



I think you may well be correct, there are problems wherever you look atm, but could the pack be the key one ?


Last year our pack made little ground with the ball and relied heavily on Chris Hill, who played long minutes for a prop. TS relied on Russell scooting, plus Clark to get us up field and in an attacking position. This year there was no Hill, Russell has lost his one and only ability - to make big yards, and the two signings Cooper and Crosby have failed to really strengthen the pack.
When you look at our games this year we spend nearly all the time in our own half with an increasingly desperate side trying to force the play and making matters worse by giving the ball away / penalties. With the pack on the back foot players like Clark and Dwyer are never going to flourish because they rely on fast play the balls and small gaps. As we continue to lose games morale and confidence falls and it just becomes one vicious circle.

As Hill gets match fitter it will help, and perhaps Crosby too will pick up after his absence, but we need to drop Russell, focus on basic rugby without the off-loads, charge-downs, handling errors.

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Teams have worked us out. Nullify the quick play the ball by fair means or foul, kick deep into the corners knowing we have few (one) full-length pace merchants and wait for the mistakes to come. And the current team is being extremely benevolent when it comes to mistakes.

What concerns me hugely is that the players surrender so willingly in the tackle and show no right to regain their feet. Opposition players are battling like their lives depend on it to play the ball, and earning lots of penalties and momentum as a result whereas ours show about as much desire to get going as a Frenchman living in a knocking shop.

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