The shield is not coveted. It's a nice to have, an icing on the cake. The big prize we all want is to be crowned Super League champions and I cannot see we will have a better chance than this year.

Our expectation is in proportion to the resources, wealth and stature of the club post 2009, not post 1979.

Wigan will be better next year, we will need to be too.

I don't think Wilde or Westwood are the answer to be playing second row for the first 5 months of the season. I think we need to bring someone in...

Still doesn't stop the unbiased (Apparently) Sky team calling us bottlers and fans of every team in the league taking the Pi$$ out of us on social media..

I'm with you and we could have as easily have won the treble

You mean SHOULD have easily won the treble....but didn't

Another way of looking at it though is that if Hull could've refocused after their Wembley win then they could've had the LLS and Warrington could've ended up with no trophies.

Yeah, right! And how many of them finished above you in the league, got to the Grand Final, and reached Wembley?! I reckon fans of nine of those SL teams would have swapped places with you!

More people watched Warrington play live than any other club. At a rough guess I would say about 500,000

Warrington was the only team to play in every round of games and was Leeds last year....but the difference between the two is stark!

Aye but we didn't did we. Ifs, buts and maybes.

Really interesting, where did you get the info?

30 games @ 10,000 roughly 300,000
Wembley 70,000
Old Trafford 70,000
challenge cup games & pre season 30,000

BBW you can -29 from the 300,000. As I went to each of those games. Your counting me 30 times, also -1 from Wembley, -1 for GF and I think -5 for CC rounds and friendlies.
I can't possibly comment about each and everyone else though.

Oh go on then, I'll join in. I could name Darcy Bussell (what a gorgeous lady, I never knew watching Judge Rinder ballroom dancing had such benefits) at stand-off for all the difference it would make, TS probably knows his starting 17 for 2017 already, but here goes.

Ratchford
Lineham
ANO
T.King
ANO
Gidley
Sandow
Hill
Clarke
Cooper
Hughes
Westwood
Westerman

Sims
Dwyer
Harrison/G.King
Another prop, preferably the kind that eats raw meat and bays at the window on a full moon

Patton will get plenty of game time should we choose to rest Gidley, Clarke or Sandow but isn't yet ready to be starting HB.

1 Russell
2. Atkins
3. New player
4 new player
5. Lineham
6. Patton
7. Sandow
8. Hill
9. Clarke
10 . Cooper
11. Currie
12. Westwood
13. Hughes
Subs
Sims
New prop
Dwyer
Ratchford