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Quote: Captain Hook "Redvee suggests Dwyer has spoken to Saints but too expensive. Then again they do have over a 100 pages of transfer speculation, most of which was wishful thinking.'"


Straight swap for Andre Savelio.

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Does anyone think Clark even needs to be rotated? It is not as though you look at him and think he needs a break. He is far too good to be off the pitch at any point IMHO.

I am tempted to suggest Sandow should be on the bench and be used in case of emergency.

With regard to Dwyer if we let him go that would leave the club with no specialist hooker in any of the teams apart from Clark. One would need to be signed; I would suggest McShane as an option.

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I don't know how he is playing these days but don't we have Andy Ackers on loan in London ?

I don't know what the problem is with Dwyer but he always seems to add an extra spark when he comes on.

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Quote: Builth Wells Wire "Straight swap for Andre Savelio.'"

I'd take that.

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Quote: ninearches "I don't know how he is playing these days but don't we have Andy Ackers on loan in London ?

I don't know what the problem is with Dwyer but he always seems to add an extra spark when he comes on.'"


Ackers was never offered a contract. The starting hookers in the Academy from last season have both now left the club. The reserve team had the halfback from Rochdale covering the role and Sean Kenny who is now at Salford.

Very thin on the ground.

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Dwyer in for Smith definitely (just because he was dropped I'm not clear why people refer to the naughty step). A couple of weeks rest could have helped but I'd have liked to have seen him play on Thursday.

Only other possibilities are Bailey for Philbin (Joe did nothing wrong,but Bailey has more presence if 100% fit) and Sandow for patten. But Dec played really well and there's no way Sandow is 100% match fit or possibly even fit.

Big call though as Sandow is mercurial. Can we afford him on the bench with Dec moving to hooker for 10 mins resting Clark? Dwyer would miss out then....

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Talk last week was saying Sandow won't be fit.

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Don't forget the last GF defeat when we lost stef and Joel. We really needed a spare back then. Sandow on bench for me if injury free, not necessary fully fit

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Actually my concern with the GF is Wigoons illegal / borderline 3rd man below the knees tackling. I'd say it was the main factor last time in our loss.
I really hope the refs are on top of that this time.

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Quote: fez1 "Actually my concern with the GF is Wigoons illegal / borderline 3rd man below the knees tackling. I'd say it was the main factor last time in our loss.
I really hope the refs are on top of that this time.'"


Give it a rest ffs. It's been proven plenty of times that tackle by Hansen was around th hips of Ratchford.

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Quote: Wigg'n "Give it a rest ffs. It's been proven plenty of times that tackle by Hansen was around th hips of Ratchford.'"

Because of which the law was then subsequently changed

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Proven by whom??? It was a career threatening tackle

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It was a shoulder charge to the hips when Ratchford was already tackled.

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The best way to play this final is to play Wigan at their own game. Niggling,outright aggression, ignore 10 yards at play the ball, ignore having markers square.Wigan will bend or break every rule they can to win on Saturday & we should be prepared to do the same. Rules go out of the window in this competition. The club could do worse than get a copy of the Shaun Wane coaching manual.

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Quote: ninearches "The best way to play this final is to play Wigan at their own game. Niggling,outright aggression, ignore 10 yards at play the ball, ignore having markers square.Wigan will bend or break every rule they can to win on Saturday & we should be prepared to do the same. Rules go out of the window in this competition. The club could do worse than get a copy of the Shaun Wane coaching manual.'"


Push the extent of the rules until you start to get penalised for breaking them. Standard really.

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