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Quote: NickyKiss "Believe me from somebody who's watched both and like to think I give pretty balanced opinions-Jack Hughes isn't in Joel Tomkins class but he could be in time if he continues to develop.

He was behind four better players at Wigan and he's admitted it himself. He's young though and he's already improved from playing a full season at Huddersfield.'"


Although J Tomkins is not my fav player by any means he is a better player than Hughes, but then given his age and experience he should be. If JH can get to that level then he will have done well, wherever he plays.

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The problem with Hughes is that his passing and decision making is very poor and has been since he was 16. I thought it was something that could have been coached out of him and MAYBE it can. It's a similar problem that Russell had and still has. Both are very good athletes, whether they will ever be very good rugby players remains to be seen.

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Joel Tomkins and the word class don't go together which ever way it's written.

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Always interesting to get an opinion on players from a Wigan perspective. Rogues cannot overcome his natural Wigan bias and usually points a negative viewpoint rather than a positive not that I am dismissing his view as I have not seen enough of the player - however, passing and decision making are not key features of Ben Westwood's game either so am not too concerned.
I always take note of Nicky Kiss' posts on the other hand who genuinely does have balanced opinions and well considered rugby knowledge.

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His confirmation signing is due to be released by the press around midday today.

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There you go.

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Well that's another one over the line so to speak. Hope the next one is a prop?

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Maybe no more signings, so Benny to prop?

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[quote="Eddie Hemmings said not ":1h9um51j] "Remember last time they were here, the Huddersfield Giants, they lost to a Luke Walsh drop goal. He's only scored four drop goals in his St Helens career has Luke Walsh and each and every one of them have been scored by Luke Walsh"[/quote:1h9um51j]:



With everyone fit I can't see past Hughes and Currie in the second row with, as has been mentioned a few times, Westwood moving into prop. It's a shame, though made up for him, that Mike Cooper is doing so well and enjoying life enough to want to stay in Australia.

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Quote: Thelonius "With everyone fit I can't see past Hughes and Currie in the second row with, as has been mentioned a few times, Westwood moving into prop. It's a shame, though made up for him, that Mike Cooper is doing so well and enjoying life enough to want to stay in Australia.'"


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Good signing this.

I do worry though if we do not look to improve our front row options. If we go in to 2016 with what we have, plus internal shifts, I really think we'll continue to disappoint.

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JH has the potential to be a top player but like previous posters have mentioned he makes rash decisions when he makes a break. Tbf to the lad though it's his athletic ability and running good lines which creates the breaks.

If he can stop the odd handling error he could become a top class SR he reminds me of Luke Lewis with his speed and line running.

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Quote: DP_wwrlfc "JH has the potential to be a top player but like previous posters have mentioned he makes rash decisions when he makes a break. Tbf to the lad though it's his athletic ability and running good lines which creates the breaks.

If he can stop the odd handling error he could become a top class SR he reminds me of Luke Lewis with his speed and line running.'"


Atkins is a different thread.

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Quote: DP_wwrlfc "JH has the potential to be a top player but like previous posters have mentioned he makes rash decisions when he makes a break. Tbf to the lad though it's his athletic ability and running good lines which creates the breaks.

If he can stop the odd handling error he could become a top class SR he reminds me of Luke Lewis with his speed and line running.'"


His error rate seems pretty standard to be honest, compares favourably to Tomkins & Bateman at any rate. Hopefully the decision making & execution following breaks will improve with a little more experience.

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