What it is with Penny is that when he scores, he is fantastic and fully deserves his 2nd chance at the club.

However, when we lose he becomes the scapegoat, he's crap, and just not good enough for Super League.

When we play Huddersfield on Friday night and he scores a hat trick, everyone will love him again.

And with some Wire "fans", Myler is the scapegoat for us losing and he's not even been playing!!!

Can I just add.. Theres not much Negativity about my Post. Im merely pointing out what everyone knows. We Put a world class 6 in our team and we are world beaters..

I think thats pretty positive to be honest .

John Wells put it spot on in the build up:

GOB needs to be taking more control on last tackle plays like he did in the most part during your game against Leeds, but he has this tendency to rely on the older heads in Westwood et al. and will sometimes take the wrong option with the decisive pass or defence splitting kick. He needs to be told by TS that he controls the plays even though in last nights case Chris Hill was skipper. I think it's more a case of GOB needing to be more confident in moving the older heads to how the play should be set up.

This time last year TS went on record saying that Chris Bridge is the best half is SL.
Most of us know he is, but he hasn't had a pre season through injury and he clearly isn't 100% match fit.

Give it time....
for years I was harping on about playing Bridge at 6.... I got ribbed for it over and over but I stuck to it because he has all the credentials.

He held his hand up to play 6.... v Bradford away who were winless and bottom of the league I think..... we got battered.
Bridge got slammed on here and deserved it and the flak I got was on a proportion I've never seen so big.
So bad was we, I assumed he had blew his chance to prove himself....
TS kept faith him in and that week following he rammed every single bad post down the throat of all those loving posters.

Trust Bridge to get it right, it's easy to cast a stone now because he isn't 100% but I wouldn't swap him or Ratchford for any other hb in the league when they are fit.

I'm very much with what you say - and I'm also not writing GOB off at all, I like him but feel that at his stage he should still be working alongside a more authoritative number 6 who can kick reliably. And I agree, if we had that I really think we'd be f***ing good, which is why it's frustrating

I agree with this too. You're in a very similar situation that we were in for a few years, in which we had a very good base of a squad, but desperately needed an experienced half back. When you look at how good we looked with Walsh in the team last year and how we are with Burns now, just shows the difference a player like that can make.

There is nothing wrong with O'brien, the problem is he is the only half back in the team.

This is brilliant.

Do you honestly believe Chris Bridge is the best half in the country ?

I'm sorry. I think you read my post wrong.
I said TS... Tony Smith said so last season.

Coaches have been well renowned for saying ridiculous things to build confidence. It's to be expected.

Believing those ridiculous things is another matter entirely

There is a simple explanation for this, WFIII

Warrington fans MUST have a scapegoat. It was to be Moses' 11th commandment, but he didn't have room on the tablets of stone.

This is what sums this thread up. Ritchie Myler didn't even play last night, but he gets a mention. We lost basically because our pack lost out (marginally) up front and we tried to push the ball too much on occasions. Some of you obviously know better than Tony Smith so why don't you apply for his job?

i wish robbie burrow would put a transfer request in i would personally go up there pick him up drive back here and make him sign a contract with us then go round and pick obrien up and dump him in workington......

Rob Burrow does not guide a team round the park he is exactly not what we want. He has some great individual brilliance due to his small size and great pace but he very often runs up his own backside and creates nothing for others. He Has a limited kicking game in my opinion. Hes a great bloke and tough player for his size but he would be totally wrong for us.

And your comments about a young Warrington player finding his feet in the game are staggering.