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| But we have at least 4 halfbacks now, plus Monaghan and Grix....that gives us 6! And then Dobson!
We've got halfbacks coming out of our ears.
The reason Bridge and Ratchford did the business is because they are big guys and balanced out the real issue.
Yes Wire111 pal....props
We have only Hill who is playing at a class level.
We got Asotasi who isn't playing at class level.
We got England who isn't class and more like made of glass and totally not fit enough for this level. He blows after 10 mins.
We got Wood who is class but also glass.
D.Bridge is is good and has improvement.
Riley needs a spell at Bradford like Bridge did.
The others are 2nd rowers.
Isn't it obvious now where we lack.
We could get Thurston and Cronk and we'd still have a pee poor front row in terms of depth.
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| I'll stick a poll on this get a feel for opinion.
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| The poll isn't right.
It ought to be buy a halve v buy a prop.
I'd have Dobson in a heart beat.
It's like which is more important here.
We buy Dobson and put Bridge in the centre
We buy say Matt Scott and move out Riley or Asotasi.
I cannot believe I am the only person on here who believes a halfback now is more important than a quality prop.
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| Look at Newcastle Knights, Dobson can't get a game behind Jarrod Mullen and Kurt Gidley, they likes of who either one of them could walk straight into a position at any balanced SL club.
Yet Knights are getting beat week after week because of their huge injury list in the forwards.
They can't buy a win. They off load a halfback on the salary cap, do you think they will go out and buy Thurston to play halfback? ...of course not, they'll be out there trying to bring in a prop.
With a quality pack Dobson can kick us up to prominent positions but with a weak pack he'll be resorted to exhaustive defending and kicks under pressure like GOB and Myler faced.
At the start of this post you'll notice I said balanced...well that is the key. Wire are not. The front row is weak and the presence of big halfbacks are helping us.
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| Dear rubber duckie
You don't seem to have got the hang of the forum. Users should be able to discuss what they want and they have a "subject heading" to focus debate.Can you start a new thread or just stop posting on this one.
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| duckie I agree with you on the front row, we are lightweight but it's unlikely that there will be a good prop available mid season. There might be an average prop around in someones fringes who would give us more depth but we are OK for average props.
The best chance of getting a top quality prop will be in the off season.
If Dobson is available then he's worth looking at....not signing Dobson is not going to increase our chances of bringing over Burgess or Graham etc. Although we don't know if he is available this is just based on forum speculation.
I'm surprised there's so much general support for Dobson though as I would have expected more views for going with GO'B at least till the end of the season....?
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| Quote: Smiffy27 "Dear rubber duckie
You don't seem to have got the hang of the forum. Users should be able to discuss what they want and they have a "subject heading" to focus debate.Can you start a new thread or just stop posting on this one.'"
Well where is your view on the subject instead of criticism of someone who has an opinion. I notice the thread is about Dobson perhaps you misread.
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| I'd have Dobson like a shot. He's class. I don't care how many so called half-backs we have got ... they will have to move position or leave. It's a tough business and they have had long enough to show what they can do.
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| Would be a great signing, said when it was mentioned a few weeks ago that he would not only bring his good kicking game but would also give the whole club a lift!
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| Quote: sally cinnamon "duckie I agree with you on the front row, we are lightweight but it's unlikely that there will be a good prop available mid season. There might be an average prop around in someones fringes who would give us more depth but we are OK for average props.
The best chance of getting a top quality prop will be in the off season.
If Dobson is available then he's worth looking at....not signing Dobson is not going to increase our chances of bringing over Burgess or Graham etc. Although we don't know if he is available this is just based on forum speculation.
I'm surprised there's so much general support for Dobson though as I would have expected more views for going with GO'B at least till the end of the season....?'"
I fully agree SC.
I'm trying to get the point across the buying Dobson is unlikely to improve our current situation. I would say weekend in the same way as it would if Myler or GOB returned with the exception of a smarter kicking game if Dobson was able to do so under pressure from a more dominant pack.
It's not that Bridge or Ratchford are better than Dobson just bigger and stronger and that is a fact.
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| we are in desperate need of a decent HB with a kicking game.
Signing Dobson is an absolute no brainer if he is available and the price is right.
Only an absolute screwball would suggest otherwise.
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| If your refer I don't agree MD you are mistaken.
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| There is too much being made of prop forwards. The teams that are succeeding have better half backs than us and more pace in the back line. They also score more trys from distance than we do and are more able to break through from 10 to 20 metres out - something we have struggled to do for many years.
Maybe if players stood up a little bit more then we might get somewhere
You never hear the Aussies saying we won because we had the best forwards, It's because they have Slater, Inglis, Cronk, Thurston, Hodges, Boyd, Jennings etc etc None of which were prop forwards when I last looked
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| Have a look at what Newcastle knights are saying then.
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| Quote: rubber duckie "I fully agree SC.
I'm trying to get the point across the buying Dobson is unlikely to improve our current situation. I would say weekend in the same way as it would if Myler or GOB returned with the exception of a smarter kicking game if Dobson was able to do so under pressure from a more dominant pack.
It's not that Bridge or Ratchford are better than Dobson just bigger and stronger and that is a fact.'"
I disagree, to an extent.
Soooooo many times this season we have made good yards up the field only to look clueless in the opposition 10/20yds. We've knocked on, chose the wrong kick option, been pulled up from crossing, thrown a forward pass, thrown the wrong pass, etc etc. There has been so much said already about our lack of idea, lack of creativity, lack of killer instinct when attacking the oppositions line.
These can be rectified by a half back who can read the game instinctively, like Briers did. World class props will not get us that final few yards to cross the try line.
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